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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 19:16:49 GMT -5
Yes, I have smoked it. In the past it just made me feel goofy and laugh at everything but the last time, when I was about 20, it made me very paranoid as in I "thought" people outside of the house could smell it and I must have looked out the windows about 50 times and washed my hands about the same amount. Again, not rational things to do but that is how the pot affected me the last time. I have not done it since and have no desire to.
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 19:23:34 GMT -5
Look at the first thing it made you do......if it wasn't illegal you wouldn't have been so paranoid the next time, you would have gone on laughing and enjoying life.....hence my point. It just shouldn't be illegal, I know it affects everyone differently and not everyone should do it, but for those of us who do, we shouldn't have to worry about jail time just because we want to enjoy ourselves.....
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 19:27:23 GMT -5
I just noticed the "adds by Google" there is an advertisement for marinol.....Heheheheh, talk about proving ones point about why its illegal......go ask the developers of that drug if they think the plant should be legal.
If you can grow it in your yard then who will make the money off it!!LMAO .... point proven
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 19:28:50 GMT -5
"ads" by Google, spell check should check for poper grammar.... ::)lol
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 19:45:44 GMT -5
LMAO, I just read the other ads, one for growing your own pot and the other for buying your seeds.........LMAO.....the spammers from Google are obviously looking at the key words on this thread.
But who needs to by seeds if your a smoker anyway, I have enough to grow a small forrest.........just waiting on the day I can.....
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Post by Twista on Apr 17, 2007 22:29:05 GMT -5
Yes, I have smoked it. In the past it just made me feel goofy and laugh at everything but the last time, when I was about 20, it made me very paranoid as in I "thought" people outside of the house could smell it and I must have looked out the windows about 50 times and washed my hands about the same amount. Again, not rational things to do but that is how the pot affected me the last time. I have not done it since and have no desire to. Paranoia... Gee Phin, did you ever get over it? LOL...
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Post by Twista on Apr 17, 2007 22:33:39 GMT -5
Hmm.. speaking of the google targeted ads... Who gets the revenue, Chris and Dale, or Pro Boards? Cause if it is the dynamic duo, I'll stop blocking them... (didn't know there were ads on here...)
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 8:04:11 GMT -5
Approximately 16.5 million Americans have been arrested for marijuana violations – more than eighty percent of them on minor possession charges. Currently, one in eight inmates incarcerated for drug crimes is behind bars for pot, at a cost to taxpayers of more than $1 billion per year. US taxpayers have spent well over $20 billion dollars enforcing criminal marijuana laws, yet marijuana availability and use among the public remains virtually unchanged. Nearly one-quarter of a million Americans have been denied federal financial aid for secondary education because of anti-drug provisions to the Higher Education Act. Most of these applicants were convicted of minor marijuana possession offenses. According to federal statistics, about 94 million Americans – that's 40 percent of the U.S. population age 12 or older – self-identify as having used cannabis at some point in their lives, and relatively few acknowledge having suffered significant deleterious health effects due to their use. America's public policies should reflect this reality, not deny it. It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals.
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 8:16:06 GMT -5
The statistics prove that our government is addicted to the revenue that marijuana prohibition creates, it cares nothing about what the citizens want.
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Post by lawman on Apr 18, 2007 8:26:53 GMT -5
The statistics prove that our government is addicted to the revenue that marijuana prohibition creates, it cares nothing about what the citizens want. Man, you don't seriously believe there's one chance in a trillion that the majority of citizens would EVER support legalizing this, DO YOU?
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 8:49:24 GMT -5
Yes..........and the reason is, though my years as a tile installer I have come across hundreds of people in their homes, a place where they feel comfortable and do not have to put on fake appearances. I very often get on the subject of marijuana legalization with them and I have NEVER come across someone who is against the legalization of it, the best part is Id say 30-40% of them even use it on a regular basis. People would be surprised at the diversity of people who like it. Doctors ( actually the main group of people I run across who use it) lawyers, many many business professionals. Its not just lay around the house stoners anymore. These people use it to relax and to unwind after a long day at work as I do.
The only reason it will not be legal is because the government doesn't want it to be, no matter if we had a 100% yea vote, the government would somehow void the vote and put out into the media that it was put down by the "people".
Its purely a money issue with the government, If they were truly worried about our health then NO medication that the FDA allows would be legal because most prescription drugs will kill you outright.
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Post by lawman on Apr 18, 2007 8:53:41 GMT -5
You seem to have been on the stuff too long, if you truly believe that?!
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Post by killer on Apr 18, 2007 9:03:49 GMT -5
I think it's common for contractors to smoke dope. I came in on a painter once and the house smelled strongly of marijuana. And I've heard builders say their subs use it. Also, they apparently like lots of porn materials.
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Post by lawman on Apr 18, 2007 9:39:15 GMT -5
I think it's common for contractors to smoke dope. I came in on a painter once and the house smelled strongly of marijuana. And I've heard builders say their subs use it. Also, they apparently like lots of porn materials. ;D ;D ;D The truth can be funny, before it's sad! I agree killer!
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 9:40:12 GMT -5
I think it's common for contractors to smoke dope. I came in on a painter once and the house smelled strongly of marijuana. And I've heard builders say their subs use it. Also, they apparently like lots of porn materials. That is the most asinine statement I have ever read. What makes you so high and mighty to make an assumption like that. Of all the insults thrown around on these forums that one actually offends me the most, I do not and will not ever be associated with pornography, I think that it is pure filth. I use it as a medication for pain relief and stress relief, and the majority of the professionals I know use it for the same reason. As for people in construction trades, we have to deal with a LOT of physical pain, we can use prescription pain relievers and risk dieing or we can use marijuana for pain relief, most of us use it for pain and stress relief. Marijuana use is not bad, God made it with his own hands, can you deny that....He put THC receptors in our brains, science has proven that. I think that you are a child porn addict for making that statement. Does that make since.......neither does your statement.
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 9:45:30 GMT -5
You too lawman, what makes you think that something that God himself put here for us to use as self medication has anything in the world to do with porn. If someone likes that crap, they dont have to be a pot head to do so.
I am a Christian and I find the comparison VERY offencive and to see that you two make that comparison I have to assume that you two are into porn yourselves, otherwise it wouldn't be foremost on your mind.
I would love to prove you wrong but you guys aren't worth the effort.
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Post by lawman on Apr 18, 2007 9:47:50 GMT -5
I think it's common for contractors to smoke dope. I came in on a painter once and the house smelled strongly of marijuana. And I've heard builders say their subs use it. Also, they apparently like lots of porn materials. That is the most asinine statement I have ever read. What makes you so high and mighty to make an assumption like that. Of all the insults thrown around on these forums that one actually offends me the most, I do not and will not ever be associated with pornography, I think that it is pure filth. I use it as a medication for pain relief and stress relief, and the majority of the professionals I know use it for the same reason. As for people in construction trades, we have to deal with a LOT of physical pain, we can use prescription pain relievers and risk dieing or we can use marijuana for pain relief, most of us use it for pain and stress relief. Marijuana use is not bad, God made it with his own hands, can you deny that....He put THC receptors in our brains, science has proven that. I think that you are a child porn addict for making that statement. Does that make since.......neither does your statement. I LOVE YA, MAN! So I'm gonna tell you the truth,again! You are DECEVIED on this subject!But, I believe (HOPE) you realize that.....in good time! It can be so easy to 'rationalize'...for convenience sake! God Bless you! And Help!
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Post by killer on Apr 18, 2007 9:50:03 GMT -5
Sounds like you agree that many contractors smoke dope (for pain relief, stress, or whatever.)
So is it the porn part that is offensive? I spoke in general terms. Builders have told me about all the crap (porn) guys bring to the office and sites. You should know that. Are you in new construction? Maybe if you go into homes and redo tile, etc. you might not see as much of this sort of thing as you would if you were in new construction.
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Post by lawman on Apr 18, 2007 9:55:43 GMT -5
You too lawman, what makes you think that something that God himself put here for us to use as self medication has anything in the world to do with porn. If someone likes that crap, they dont have to be a pot head to do so. I am a Christian and I find the comparison VERY offencive and to see that you two make that comparison I have to assume that you two are into porn yourselves, otherwise it wouldn't be foremost on your mind. I would love to prove you wrong but you guys aren't worth the effort. I don't know ANYTHING about the 'porn' statement!
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Post by espy on Apr 18, 2007 10:02:44 GMT -5
No, I'm not around much new construction, so your statement may be true, what offended me was your association of pot smokers in general with lowlifes.
Lawman, you just quoted killer on the statement and confirmed it to be true, Most all the builders and subcontractors I know do not make it known if they are into porn for the same reason you wouldn't cuss in front of your customers.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 18, 2007 11:04:41 GMT -5
"Look at the first thing it made you do......if it wasn't illegal you wouldn't have been so paranoid the next time"
Actually, I knew it was illegal before when I smoked it and it didn't cause an abnormal paranoia. I think it's sort of like LSD in that you can have good "trips" and bad "trips"....it just happened to affect me in a negative manner that time. I was just giving you the details of what I remember from the last time I smoked it, it wasn't the reason why I stopped.
"Paranoia...
Gee Phin, did you ever get over it?
LOL..."
Yes, the effect lasted only about an hour.
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Post by RWEREW on Apr 29, 2007 4:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by solomon on Apr 29, 2007 5:30:00 GMT -5
I hope you guys did not forget that I'm a friggin cop you bunch of weed smokin neocons......................No wonder why so many of you believe the official 9/11 story......... I'm coming to your house as we speak to kick your door in and snatch your crops ( cops come and try to snatch my crops these pigs want to blow my house down........insane in the brain).
I'm just joking. I'm saved. My body belongs to Christ. It is his not mine.
1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
But I am for making it legal. Just because I think somethings are sinful doesn't mean I believe you ought to pay a fine ($$$$$$$$$ for the govt) or go to jail. I believe plenty of things are wrong like lusting, sex before marriage, watching porn, smoking cigarettes, dipping, using bad language and many other things but I don't think they warrant jail time or fines. I believe you will have to answer to the Lord for it though.
Brian Solomon John 6:68
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Post by solomon on Apr 29, 2007 5:35:10 GMT -5
Yes, I have smoked it. In the past it just made me feel goofy and laugh at everything but the last time, when I was about 20, it made me very paranoid as in I "thought" people outside of the house could smell it and I must have looked out the windows about 50 times and washed my hands about the same amount. Again, not rational things to do but that is how the pot affected me the last time. I have not done it since and have no desire to. Since you were not being "rational" maybe I would have been justified coming to your house and taking your guns and force you to leave even though you had food to last you a while. That possibly why your posts have been leaning to the left recently old Phinny. I'll be praying that the Lord will give you the victory over your pot inhaling. You hippie!!! ;D
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Post by solomon on Apr 29, 2007 5:42:58 GMT -5
Approximately 16.5 million Americans have been arrested for marijuana violations – more than eighty percent of them on minor possession charges. Currently, one in eight inmates incarcerated for drug crimes is behind bars for pot, at a cost to taxpayers of more than $1 billion per year. US taxpayers have spent well over $20 billion dollars enforcing criminal marijuana laws, yet marijuana availability and use among the public remains virtually unchanged. Nearly one-quarter of a million Americans have been denied federal financial aid for secondary education because of anti-drug provisions to the Higher Education Act. Most of these applicants were convicted of minor marijuana possession offenses. According to federal statistics, about 94 million Americans – that's 40 percent of the U.S. population age 12 or older – self-identify as having used cannabis at some point in their lives, and relatively few acknowledge having suffered significant deleterious health effects due to their use. America's public policies should reflect this reality, not deny it. It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals. I'm a Christian and a cop but I agree that throwing folks in jail for smoking pot is a huge waste of money. It is wrong to take a man from his family and place him in a prison for a long time over dope. This nation is so goofy. You can kill unborn children but you can't smoke pot................Somebody put the law makers in a rubber room and throw away the keys please! I believe it could be legalized but folks should not operate vehicles or heavy machines. DUIs should be made on folks that get high and drive.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 29, 2007 8:12:48 GMT -5
solomon - Well, you could come to my house, but as I stated, the last time I smoked pot was about 18 years ago, so it's been out of my system for awhile.
As far as dragging people out of their house for not being rational, that would be if the irrationality was a danger to themselves or others.
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Post by Twista on Apr 29, 2007 22:29:28 GMT -5
What about head shops? Are they illegal? Going to a head shop was always a blast. Checking out the bongs, pipes, ISO2's, screens, Mari-gins, one hitters, and rollers, maybe picking up an issue of the Fabulous Furry Freek Brothers, www.freaknet.org.uk/graphics01/g04/freaks/freaks04.gif checking out the little cans of "rush" and other assorted stuff people seemed to buy... And going behind the beaded curtain to the special room where all the rock cutting stuff was sold... Come to think about it, I suppose they probably are... LOL
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Post by espy on Apr 30, 2007 1:19:32 GMT -5
sol, dude, how as a christian can you make the statement that marijuana is sinful, God made all plants and made many of them medicinal for us, just because the government sees this plant as a potential money maker they make it illegal. I work more than 70 hrs a week doing tile installations, and I manage my own company in the process, all while smoking pot. In all the years I have been doing this work I have never sat around the house all smoked out of my mind, I also have never made ANY mistakes in my work. I use the stuff to be able to have a stable frame of mind and to keep the stress of a growing company from breaking me. By the way, I bought pot from an officer friend of mine who had just gotten it from a traffic stop. He also uses it when he is off work. The point is, no matter how many ways its put, marijuana is the least of most evils we encounter every day. I used to work with a group of guys who would chain smoke on the way to the job with me in the car. To top it off, at the end of the day they would go to a bar and get drunk then try to drive home......but all that's legal. also, I cant tell you how many times I have gone through police license checks while high, you cant tell when someone has had just enough pot to get a buzz, but I would never drive while very stoned.....or at least most of the time...... twista, why buy a bong when its so simple to make your own, and screens, you can get stainless steel screens in the plumbing section of any hardware store. ;D
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Post by espy on Apr 30, 2007 1:37:36 GMT -5
solomon, I guess the academy is still teaching you this.......
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Post by brandon on Apr 30, 2007 2:13:05 GMT -5
solomon, I guess the academy is still teaching you this....... Every police academy still teaches that bullshit. I have to say that there are more and more police that feel the same way that I do, though, that marijuana doesn't hurt anyone and shouldn't be taking up our time and jail space. I don't feel sorry for drug traffickers, though, and will not shed any tears over anyone hauling 200 lbs of weed down the highway. Most of the large traffickers are illegal aliens anyhow and they can kiss my bloody arse if they think it's okay to jump the fence then partake in a racket. But if someone has a dimebag in the car, I'd rather dump it out and send them on their way instead of wasting my time when I could be looking for felons.
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