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Post by deovindice on Apr 15, 2007 12:14:55 GMT -5
I swear! If I see one more news story containing the phrase "In the holy Shiite city of..................", I think I may explode!
It seems that every friggin' city, town, rock, and mudhole where some godforsaken [arab]was rumored to have taken a dump in the name of Allah several hundred years ago is "holy".
With all the "holy" places there, you'd think there'd be a little less violence.
You know what I mean?
You'd think they would put more emphasis on the "holy" place being where the 72 virgins are stashed.
Or would that be the "holely" place?
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Post by W.O.M.I on Apr 20, 2007 14:27:16 GMT -5
I'm thinking the whole reason the burqua thing is so popular over there is that all the women look like Rosie O'Donnell...
Or maybe Nancy Pelosi.
Come to think of it, Pelosi's over there cozying up to Middle Eastern dictators so often that it might actually be her....
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Post by Dale Jackson on Apr 20, 2007 14:29:10 GMT -5
Maybe the holy cities are about heritage not hate?
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Post by alabamamtnman on Apr 20, 2007 19:35:13 GMT -5
so jew is wrong but raghead is ok? thanks for the objectivity dale
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Post by Twista on Apr 20, 2007 21:12:57 GMT -5
so jew is wrong but raghead is ok? thanks for the objectivity dale Barring any chance that the above post lacks objectivity, I'd have to wonder how many Jewish holy sites there are, and how that score should be tabulated against the number of Islamic sites... If any of this matters at all... LOL...
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Post by starlag 13 on Apr 21, 2007 0:10:47 GMT -5
the muslims probably added about 5000 holy sites in the past decade in order to have the ability to yell jihad more often. If a bomb lands anywhere chances are it will hit a muslim holy site.
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Post by espy on Apr 21, 2007 8:06:47 GMT -5
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Post by espy on Apr 21, 2007 8:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Apr 21, 2007 9:39:19 GMT -5
so jew is wrong but raghead is ok? thanks for the objectivity dale Barring any chance that the above post lacks objectivity, I'd have to wonder how many Jewish holy sites there are, and how that score should be tabulated against the number of Islamic sites... If any of this matters at all... LOL... The term "raghead" is a racist term having no direct link with the backwards 7th century death cult of islam. It was used here by a person that indulges revisionist fantasies and probably has no way of knowing that there was a pre-islamic Arabia. The number of islamic "holy" sites will always eclipse the number of Jewish holy sites because islam has co-opted all of Judaism's holy sites and added their own. The only places that a Jew might be left alone to contemplate their past are holocaust sites, since muslims rarely believe in such.
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Post by starlag 13 on Apr 21, 2007 10:42:48 GMT -5
The number of islamic \"holy\" sites will always eclipse the number of Jewish holy sites because islam has co-opted all of Judaism\'s holy sites and added their own.
You are correct there. I wonder if they found reasons to make a holy site where the Jewish one already existed, like Mohammed walked by this such and such spot or Mohammed took a piss here or Mohammed\'s second cousins mother\'s best friends son pulled a rock from out of his sandal and the rock landed on this very spot. Of course, that is exactly what I think they started to do.
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Post by deovindice on Apr 24, 2007 7:26:41 GMT -5
It doesn't. So, Mr. Pomposity rears his antagonistic head once again, and it appears he has learned a new word. "Revisionist", was it? Let's see how you exhaust Wikipedia resources on that topic. "Raghead" is not, nor was it intended, as a racist term. Had I intended to espouse racism, I would have cast disparaging remarks against the race, and not the wardrobe. Wake up. It's the wardrobe, Stupid. Racism: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.I give a damn about the race or races that constitute the populations of the Middle East. Race doesn't determine how people believe, speak, dress, or take a dump in a mudhole. I detest their presiding religion, that being Islam, for all of its evil attributes, and I find their wardrobes ridiculous and gaudy. There now. It's funny. The individual who edited my post, in their zeal to abide by the tenets of political correctness, actually turned the post into a "racist" one by inserting the word "arab" where raghead was used. They obviously have no understanding of the definition of racism. Therefore, I hereby disassociate myself with the edited post. It doesn't properly convey my intent. Of course I would have a way of knowing. It's called research. If I was really interested, I could either prove or debunk my own assumption that, at least at one time, pre-Islamic Arabia was populated by dinosaurs. As to the reference to Jewish holy sites, one of my enduring wishes in life is to visit the Jewish holy sites. I do so love Jewish history and culture. I have nothing but admiration for the folks, tempered with a small degree of disappointment in their present-day foreign policy decisions and their lack of zeal in proactively defending themselves against those who wish to destroy them. Note: The original post, in it's original context, was meant to convey a lack of respect for the religion of Islam, and a wondering-out-loud, if you will, as to why it requires so many holy sites. It seems that virtually every news story dealing with that part of the world is prefaced by "Today in the holy city of..................". One would think they'd eventually run out of holy cities. So here I sit at my computer, an American Indian, married to a German immigrant, deflecting suggestions that I am somehow racist. Only in America. ............Or does this have something to do with the Confederate avatar? You see, friends, the definition of racism is clear. A descendant of the Apache Nation, who dearly loves the South, it's history and culture, it's people, and it's 19th century struggle to continue in the vein of the freedom and liberty bequeathed to us by the Founders doesn't develop these interests by virtue of his race. The definition is clear, indeed.
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Post by deovindice on Apr 24, 2007 7:30:20 GMT -5
Maybe the holy cities are about heritage not hate? Or perhaps they are the scenes of some of the worst carnage of this new century? Frankly, I could care less, except for the fact that our soldiers are dying in those places to keep them intact.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Apr 24, 2007 9:26:52 GMT -5
"Raghead" is not, nor was it intended, as a racist term. Had I intended to espouse racism, I would have cast disparaging remarks against the race, and not the wardrobe. Wake up. It's the wardrobe, Stupid. So this is only a fashion criticism? Perhaps the admins could create a new fashion forum for you. You have used "raghead" here in a International Issues forum in a clear political and racist manner, Mr. Blackwell. It's funny. The individual who edited my post, in their zeal to abide by the tenets of political correctness, actually turned the post into a "racist" one by inserting the word "arab" where raghead was used. They obviously have no understanding of the definition of racism. The editing was unnecessary and ultimately ineffective. You're right it is racist. Just as it was when you'd said raghead. Of course I would have a way of knowing. It's called research. If I was really interested, I could either prove or debunk my own assumption that, at least at one time, pre-Islamic Arabia was populated by dinosaurs. And what do you suppose Christian Bedouins and Jewish Qurayzah wore? So here I sit at my computer, an American Indian, married to a German immigrant, deflecting suggestions that I am somehow racist. Only in America. No. Anyone who uses racist language, anywhere is apt to be called a racist.
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Post by deovindice on Apr 24, 2007 10:58:17 GMT -5
"Raghead" is not, nor was it intended, as a racist term. Had I intended to espouse racism, I would have cast disparaging remarks against the race, and not the wardrobe. Wake up. It's the wardrobe, Stupid. A fashion and culture criticism, based on an attack of a religion often mistakenly referred to as a religion of peace. Who the hell is Mr. Blackwell? I'm deovindice. .........and thanks, but no. I wouldn't do well on fashion forum. I'm not much on fashion labels, except perhaps for Dixie Outfitters. All I can do for you is suggest Merriam-Webster as a source of therapy to help you overcome your inability to understand the concept of racism. Islam isn't a race. It's a religion. A crappy one, to be sure, but a religion nonetheless. Perhaps the same ridiculous and gaudy stuff? So here I sit at my computer, an American Indian, married to a German immigrant, deflecting suggestions that I am somehow racist. Only in America. Right. When people rightly deserve to be called racist, then fine. You're learning. When folks use the term "raghead" to describe screwed up, misdirected people who babble prayers when they should be working, who are too stupid to take advantage of the chance for a freer life so given to them by the valiant sacrifices of our troops, and who do these things under the direction of a religion called Islam, AND who do, very often, wear rags on their heads, well........
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Apr 24, 2007 12:03:29 GMT -5
A fashion and culture criticism, based on an attack of a religion often mistakenly referred to as a religion of peace. Calm down. Complete sentences. Who the hell is Mr. Blackwell? A fashion critic. La... Tee... Da... All I can do for you is suggest Merriam-Webster as a source of therapy to help you overcome your inability to understand the concept of racism. Is that the same concept where some assumed minority status is believed to absolve one from any criticism of their ignorant comments? The "rags" are traditional dress of Bedouins and pre-date mo'. Death Cult .... When people rightly deserve to be called racist, then fine. You're learning. I am learning? It is you that has largely repeated what I did say. When folks use the term "raghead" to describe screwed up, misdirected people who babble prayers when they should be working, who are too stupid to take advantage of the chance for a freer life so given to them by the valiant sacrifices of our troops, and who do these things under the direction of a religion called Islam, AND who do, very often, wear rags on their heads, well........ Well.... then "folks" are focusing on the wrong thing and using racist language that is not singularly descriptive of their target of derision. Why should "misdirected people" be the target of any derision at all? Islam is the problem, even if it is dressed in FUBU or Dixie Outfitters.
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Post by deovindice on Apr 25, 2007 4:43:47 GMT -5
A fashion and culture criticism, based on an attack of a religion often mistakenly referred to as a religion of peace. Thanks. Sorry. I was beginning to drool. See, I told ya I wouldn't do well in a fashion forum. Calm down. Complete sentences. Anyone is open to criticism. I do, however, understand how you might assume that I considered myself to be immune from said. That was not my intent. I merely thought it funny that I, having been exposed to so much diversity among different peoples, and having embraced it enthusiastically would need to deflect suggestions that I somehow harbored racist tendencies. Of course, you could not know that since you do not know me personally, but then, you do sometimes assume too much. Great. They are still gaudy and ridiculous. I bow to the word king. Agreed. Who's on first? When folks use the term "raghead" to describe screwed up, misdirected people who babble prayers when they should be working, who are too stupid to take advantage of the chance for a freer life so given to them by the valiant sacrifices of our troops, and who do these things under the direction of a religion called Islam, AND who do, very often, wear rags on their heads, well........ Well.... then "folks" are focusing on the wrong thing and using racist language that is not singularly descriptive of their target of derision. Why should "misdirected people" be the target of any derision at all? Islam is the problem, even if it is dressed in FUBU or Dixie Outfitters. "Folks" sometimes utilize colloquial expressions in conversation. It's nice when others are intellectually empowered enough to discern when they are being used. That Islam is the problem...............agreed.
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