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Post by dixie56 on Apr 10, 2007 13:10:07 GMT -5
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/100407beesdying.htmEcological Apocalypse: Why Are All The Bees Dying?GM, toxic chemicals, chemtrails destroying eco-system, threatening very survival of humanity The alarming decline in bee populations across the United States and Europe represents a potential ecological apocalypse, an environmental catastrophe that could collapse the food chain and wipe out humanity. Who and what is behind this flagrant abuse of the eco-system? Many people don't realize the vital role bees play in maintaining a balanced eco-system. According to experts, if bees were to become extinct then humanity would perish after just four years. "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man," said Albert Einstein. Others would say four years is alarmist and that man would find other food sources, but the fact remains that the disappearance of bees is potentially devastating to agriculture and most plant life. Reports that bee populations are declining at rates of up to 80% in areas of the U.S. and Europe should set alarm bells ringing and demand immediate action on behalf of environmental organizations. Experts are calling the worrying trend "colony collapse disorder" or CCD. "Bee numbers on parts of the east coast and in Texas have fallen by more than 70 percent, while California has seen colonies drop by 30 to 60 percent," reports AFP. "Approximately 40 percent of my 2,000 colonies are currently dead and this is the greatest winter colony mortality I have ever experienced in my 30 years of beekeeping," apiarist Gene Brandi, from the California State Beekeepers Association, told Congress recently. The article states that U.S. bee colonies have been dropping since 1980 and the number of beekeepers have halved. Scientists are thus far stumped as to what is causing the decline, ruling out parasites but leaning towards some kind of new toxin or chemical used in agriculture as being responsible. "Experts believe that the large-scale use of genetically modified plants in the US could be a factor," reports Germany's Spiegal Online. Bee populations throughout Germany have simultaneously dropped 25% and up to 80% in some areas. Poland, Switzerland and Spain are reporting similar declines. Studies have shown that bees are not dying in the hive, something is causing them to lose their sense of orientation so that they cannot return to the hive. Depleted hives are not being raided for their honey by other insects, which normally happens when bees naturally die in the winter, clearly suggesting some kind of poisonous toxin is driving them away. "In many cases, scientists have found evidence of almost all known bee viruses in the few surviving bees found in the hives after most have disappeared. Some had five or six infections at the same time and were infested with fungi -- a sign, experts say, that the insects' immune system may have collapsed." A study at the University of Jena from 2001 to 2004 showed that toxins from a genetically modified maize variant designed to repel insects, when combined with a parasite, resulted in a "significantly stronger decline in the number of bees" than normal. According to Hans-Hinrich Kaatz, a professor at the University of Halle in eastern Germany and the director of the study, the bacterial toxin in the genetically modified corn may have "altered the surface of the bee's intestines, sufficiently weakening the bees to allow the parasites to gain entry -- or perhaps it was the other way around. We don't know." Kaatz was desperate to continue his studies but funding was cut off. While we are lectured by government to change our lifestyle and cough up more taxes for the supposed peril of man-made global warming, an environmental catastrophe that could eliminate the human race in the figurative blink of an eye is looming. Why are major environmental groups and lobbyists ignoring this mammoth threat to our very existence? Where is Greenpeace? The hyperbole surrounding man-made global warming is swallowing up all the attention while real dangers like the rapid die-off of bee populations and its link to GM food is largely shunned by governments and activist foundations. Is it a stretch to hypothesize that government mandated spraying of crops with deadly chemicals as well as toxic substances contained in chemtrails could be part of a deliberate program to eliminate the bee population? Or is this just another example of big business flagrantly abusing the eco-system in order to drive up profits? The elite have publicly stated their desire to significantly reduce world population on numerous occasions. Just yesterday we featured a story about a British Government Ministry of Defence report that postulated on the future use of bio-weapons to thin the human population in under 30 years. Making bees all but extinct would be a swift and plausibly deniable method of enacting global population reduction long dreamed of by the maniacal sociopaths that control the world. Either way, this issue represents an overwhelming threat to the food chain and an environmental crime of the highest order, for which the perpetrators need to be brought up on charges of accessories to genocide, should a deliberate effort to endanger the food chain be proven, and the chemicals responsible immediately banned. Please circulate this article to environmental groups and demand they investigate who and what is killing our bees!
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Post by mamawolf on Apr 10, 2007 13:21:18 GMT -5
The bees aren't dying. The ones that go into the fields to collect pollen are just leaving...not coming back. That causes the ones left in the hive to die.
I did read that it isn't happening in Alabama. We have a policy that does not allow bees from other states to be trucked here. They can pass through on the way to another state but are not allowed to bring in outer state colonies for sale. That makes me think that this is the reason we don't have the issue yet. Alabama is one of the largest honey producing states.
I have to wonder if the bees are either leaving to find fresher grounds due to over fertilizing or pest control of fields and crops OR those same things are causing a confusion in the bees.
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Post by dixiepixie on Apr 10, 2007 13:36:40 GMT -5
That makes sence, Mama..Are they leaving and looking for the hive they were taken from. Don't bees group in a "family type" clutch. I know I am not expressing this the right way, but it seems that if they are removed from where they are "grounded" they would try and return to where they "belong".
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Post by dixie56 on Apr 10, 2007 20:41:34 GMT -5
I remember as a child bees all over the place as well as butterflies. During the Summer you could hardly go outside barefoot without stepping on them. I have noticed (before this got brought up) that I hardly see any bees except the carpenter bees. www.newstarget.com/021784.htmlA variety of genetically modified corn that was approved for human consumption in 2006 caused signs of liver and kidney toxicity as well as hormonal changes in rats in a study performed by researchers from the independent Committee for Independent Research and Genetic Engineering at the University of Caen in France. Jump directly to: conventional view | alternative view | resources | bottom line What you need to know - Conventional View • The corn in question, MON863, is made by the Monsanto Company and approved for use in Australia, Canada, China, the European Union, Japan, Mexico, the Philippines, and the United States. It has had a gene inserted from the bacteria Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), which causes the plant's cells to produce a pesticide. • Researchers fed rats either unmodified corn or diets containing 11 or 30 percent MON863 for 90 days. The rats who ate modified corn were found to exhibit signs of liver and kidney toxicity, as well as signs of hormonal changes. • Male rats lost an average of 3.3 percent of their body weight, and their excretion of phosphorus and sodium decreased. Female rats gained an average of 3.7 percent of their body weight, while their triglyceride levels increased by 24 to 40 percent. • The mechanism that causes the toxicity is not yet known, but the researchers say there is evidence that the Bt toxin may cause the perforation of blood cells. They expressed concern that the methods used by Monsanto in initial tests of the corn were statistically flawed and called their own tests "the best mammalian toxicity tests available." • Greenpeace responded to the study by calling for an immediate recall of all MON863 corn and the reassessment of all genetically modified foods currently approved for the market. • Quote: "Our counter-evaluation shows that there are signs of toxicity, and nobody can say scientifically and seriously the consumption of the transgenic maize MON863 is safe and good for health." - Lead Author Gilles Eric Seralini What you need to know - Alternative View Statements and opinions by Mike Adams, author of Grocery Warning: How to identify and avoid dangerous food ingredients • It seems that the more these GM foods are tested, the more frightening the implications seem to be for human health. When companies like Monsanto do their own in-house testing, results are mysteriously favorable in nearly all cases, but when independent labs run their own tests, the results are downright shocking. • I find it interesting that the FDA believes U.S. consumers should not be allowed to know which foods are genetically modified and which aren't. The push for honest labeling of GM foods has been blockaded by corporate interests and corrupt federal regulators. Resources you need to know The Campaign for labeling of GM foods: www.thecampaign.orgBottom line • A variety of genetically modified corn was found to cause signs of hormonal changes and liver and kidney toxicity in rats. ###
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Post by dixie56 on Apr 10, 2007 20:44:46 GMT -5
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/09/ldt.01.html.........snipped............................................... The current pet food crisis has exposed a serious flaw in our food safety efforts. Not just for pets, but for people as well. As Bill Tucker now reports, the federal government is inspecting less than one percent of all the food that we import. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): President Bush likes to emphasize the faith-based nature of his administration. Food safety is one of those areas. Over the past decade, our food imports have doubled, our food inspections have not kept pace. WINONA HAUTER, FOOD AND WATER WATCH: Look at seafood. We import 81 percent of the seafood into this country. And the FDA inspects about one percent of it. When you look at the actual real tests where they're sending something to a laboratory, a sample, that's about six- tenths of one percent. TUCKER: Less than one percent of our total food imports are inspected by the Food and Drug Administration. Yet, one-fifth of the food we eat comes from somewhere over than an American farm. MICHAEL DOYLE, UNIV. OF GEORGIA CENTER FOR FOOD SAFETY: Our Food and Drug Administration, which is responsible for about 80 percent of the foods that we consume, does not have all the inspectors and personnel that's needed to provide us the safest foods that we are accustomed to. TUCKER: The FDA has 600 inspections for 65,000 facilities. While the FDA managed about a one percent inspection rate, the U.S. Department of Agriculture managed only slightly better at 16 percent last year. Critics say it isn't hard to understand why imports are so rapidly increasing. TOM BUIS, NATIONAL FARMERS UNION: A lot of the countries that we import our food from pay their workers a fraction of what we pay in the United States. Their environmental standards in which they produce to protect the air, water and soil are far less than the water required for U.S. producers. TUCKER: They are cheaper and earn the importing companies higher profits. (END VIDEOTAPE) TUCKER: And while big ag companies are bringing in more imports, they're also fighting country of origin labeling. Despite Congress passing the law in 2002, those labels are still not mandatory. Corporations would rather consumers just see the USDA-inspected sticker, Lou, and let them have faith that it's been inspected and believe that it's from a farm in the USA. DOBBS: And in 99 percent of the cases, that's absolutely not true. TUCKER: Correct. DOBBS: Bill, thank you very much. Bill Tucker. Turning now to the toxic wheat gluten imported from China that killed dozens of pets in this country, Senator Dick Durbin will hold hearings on the pet food recall this Thursday. Witnesses will include veterinarians from the FDA, and private practice as well. Also, representatives from the Feed Control Officers Association and the pet food supply industry. Understandably, millions of you are extremely concerned about the safety of the food you're feeding your animals. For a complete list of pet food that manufacturers have assured us on this broadcast that is safe, please go to loudobbs.com. You'll find a list there.
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Post by billt on Apr 10, 2007 20:58:49 GMT -5
amazing that the FDA has enough money and people to spend on trying to restrict vitamins ,minerals, and natural herbs!
as a very young hillbilly i was taught one of life's great lessons, that government ALWAYS tries to take power from the people and enslave them.....the wording i was told "whenever some stranger says, hello i am from the government here to help you, grab your wallet and RUN the other direction as fast as you can.
history confirms that indeed government ALWAYS seeks to take away freedom, but we know today our government is benevolent and here to help!
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Post by syme on Apr 10, 2007 21:03:50 GMT -5
bill t
I see what you are saying but your statements seem to go beyond a good government gone bad to there should be no government at all. Please clarify your position. If you don't think there should be government, what evidence do you have that anarchy would be better?
If your point is that we have a good form of government that needs to be reformed, then I would agree. How that can be done is a different matter.
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Post by dixie56 on Apr 10, 2007 21:10:13 GMT -5
I think we have long since had a government that gives a rats rear end about the people. I am not against government I am against BAD government on every level.
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Post by dixie56 on Apr 10, 2007 21:19:58 GMT -5
This part of the article I find disturbing...
Kaatz was desperate to continue his studies but funding was cut off.
Why was the funding cut off from something that is so very important?
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Post by billt on Apr 10, 2007 21:50:58 GMT -5
i support the constitution of the USA and government as it calls for and LIMITS!
NOWHERE did i advocate anarchy and taking that leap is amazing to me, WHY do people see any opposition to any government abuse of citizens as a call for anarchy?
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Post by mamawolf on Apr 10, 2007 22:01:00 GMT -5
I used to raise honey bees. Had several hives for a few years. So I studied up on them to keep up with the latest in bee keeping. They do act as a family unit dixiepixie. They have a built in ability to find their way back to the hive. It is part of their genetic makeup depending on the particular bee to do what comes natural to them...
the drones(males)are merely there to reproduce with the queen while the worker bees(females, excluding the queen), lay unfertilized eggs (which become drones), forage for pollen, build the hive. From my understanding the foraging bees are the ones that are disappearing, hence leaving a hive full of workers who are not equiped to forage which means they all eventually die.
This is why I am thinking it has something to do with pesticides fouling up the ability of the foragers to find their way home, killing them outright OR making them go off further to look for clean pollen and possibly dying because they have been forced to venture too far away.
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Post by syme on Apr 10, 2007 23:38:45 GMT -5
i support the constitution of the USA and government as it calls for and LIMITS! NOWHERE did i advocate anarchy and taking that leap is amazing to me, WHY do people see any opposition to any government abuse of citizens as a call for anarchy? If you are wondering how a person, not knowing your position on government, could not be clear of what it exactly entails, making the statements that government always tries to take power and enslave people along with putting that as an absolute in the context of history, is the reason why. I have heard many anarchists make similar statements, but it's good to know that the scope of your comments were in relation to reformation and not elimination.
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Post by syme on Apr 10, 2007 23:43:37 GMT -5
mamawolf
I wonder how this is affecting the raising of honey bees and if the commodity of honey has gone up in price due to this issue being reflected. It's interesting that we hear of bumper crops and losses with vegetables, grains and most recently with fruit, in Alabama and worldwide but I don't ever recall that as a discussion with honey production.
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Post by W.O.M.I on Apr 16, 2007 21:48:13 GMT -5
Drudge had a link to a story in which the 'experts' claim that the radiation from cell phones and other electronic devices are killing the bees.
That theory sorta reminds me of the Navy's super-hi-tech sonar that was supposedly causing the whales and dolphins to beach themselves.
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Post by solinvictus on Apr 17, 2007 4:57:08 GMT -5
Remember; Monsanto poisoned the city of Anniston with polychlorinated biphenyls for over fifty years. Monsanto has also pioneered lawsuits regarding illegal use of GMO crops; this illegal "use" includes unintentional cross pollination into other fields. What happens? Bees pollinate an outside field with Monsanto pollen, Monsanto detects this and subsequently sues. One of Monsanto's first acts when coming to Iraq was to require Iraqi farmers to purchase their patented seeds which are only good for one year. Let's face it: these sons of bitches are evil.
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Post by mamawolf on Apr 17, 2007 9:28:09 GMT -5
mamawolf I wonder how this is affecting the raising of honey bees and if the commodity of honey has gone up in price due to this issue being reflected. It's interesting that we hear of bumper crops and losses with vegetables, grains and most recently with fruit, in Alabama and worldwide but I don't ever recall that as a discussion with honey production. Honey has never been real inexpensive even back when I harvested it it was about $6 a quart. It is now $8 a quart if you know the right places to find good raw honey. It is more than that in grocery stores...around $10 to $15 a quart, which you can't usually find. They sell the processed honey in smaller portions so it doesn't SEEM so expensive. I don't buy that crap because it has been processed to the point all the nutrients and healthy ingrediants are gone. So to answer your question, I have seen no rise in the cost of honey in my area due to the bee crisis. As long as Alabama stands strong in NOT allowing outside state bees to be transported into the Alabama populace I hope we will be alright. Again, there has to be something to it since Alabama is not experiencing the disappearing bee problems the rest of the country is.
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Post by dixiepixie on Apr 18, 2007 2:36:58 GMT -5
As I was sitting in my back yard today, I lost count of the honey bees in the clover patches. There were more than I have seen in a very long time.
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Post by mamawolf on Apr 18, 2007 12:15:08 GMT -5
Should have seen my maple trees when we had that weird warm spell that bloomed everything out in February. Bees EVERYWHERE.....they were creating a HUGE humming noise.
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Post by dixiepixie on Apr 18, 2007 13:59:39 GMT -5
Well, friends in the area are telling me that the hummers are in early this year, too. I need to get my feeders up so my little guys don't find a new home.
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Post by lawman on Apr 22, 2007 14:31:13 GMT -5
Hey dixie56, I just saw this link! Seems rotten cell phones are killing people on the roads of America....and our precious bee population also! But do you think the Greedy, 'Money-hungry' leaders (politicians) care about 'life?' ---Nooooooooo!!!!!www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/22/news/wireless23.phpWireless: Case of the disappearing bees creates a buzz about cellphones By Eric Sylvers Published: April 22, 2007 Milan: The headlines were catchy, the subject compelling and, in some cases, the newspapers well respected. "Cellphones linked to honeybee deaths." "To bee or not to be near mobile phones." "German study links cellphones to drop in honey bee population; Radiation said to interfere with homing ability." "Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees." All rather dire if you try to imagine a world without honey and especially if you happen to have read a quote that has been attributed to Albert Einstein saying that if bees were to disappear, the human race would follow suit four years later because of the important role bees play in pollinating plants. The bee story had an extra appeal for those people who use their cellphones rather tentatively because they think the privilege to speak on the move may be frying their brain cells one by one. So now, if the headlines are to be believed, we learn that our cellphone and those long calls from mom where she refuses every attempt to cut short the conversation not only are going to lead to our demise, they are killing millions of bees. Good story for sure, except that the study in question had nothing to do with mobile phones and was actually investigating the influence of electromagnetic fields, especially those used by cordless phones that work on fixed-line networks, on the learning ability of bees. The small study, according to the researchers who carried it out too small for the results to be considered significant, found that the electromagnetic fields similar to those used by cordless phones may interrupt the innate ability of bees to find the way back to their hive. Today in Technology & Media Wireless: Case of the disappearing bees creates a buzz about cellphones VJs for the digital age When YouTube is a threat Those searching for answers for the recent disappearance of millions of bees in the United States - what researchers are calling colony collapse disorder - jumped on the possible explanation though there was one particular, cellphones and cordless phones emit different types of radiation and what you learn studying one type is not necessarily significant to the other, according to the researchers. "We cannot explain the CCD-phenomenon itself and want to keep from speculation in this case," Jochen Kuhn, a professor in the physics department at the University of Koblenz-Landau in Germany who co-authored the bee study, wrote in an e-mail message. "Our studies cannot indicate that electromagnetic radiation is a cause of CCD." While beekeepers consider it normal to lose about 20 percent of their bees in the off-season while the bees are hibernating, it has been reported that recent U.S. losses have ranged from 30 to 60 percent on the West Coast to as much as 70 percent in parts of the East Coast and Texas. The bees simply disappear from their hives, apparently having gone one last time in search of pollen and nectar, only never to return. "If the Americans are looking for an explanation for colony collapse disorder, perhaps they should look at herbicides, pesticides and they should especially think about genetically modified drops," said Stefan Kimmel, a graduate student who co-authored the study last year with Kuhn and other professors. The speculation about the bees and cellphones heightened when reports that colony collapse disorder had reached Britain and several other European countries. The British Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs squashed speculation regarding Britain. The mortality rate among bees has been 22 percent so far this year in Britain, compared with 15 percent last year, though the results are not yet significant because only 2,000 colonies have been inspected out of about 25,000, said Abbie Sampson, a senior press officer with the DEFRA. "It's not my fault if people misinterpret our data," said Kimmel. "Ever since The Independent wrote their article, for which they never called or wrote to us, none of us have been able to do any of our work because all our time has been spent in phone calls and e-mails trying to set things straight. This is a horror story for every researcher to have your study reduced to this. Now we are trying to force things back to normal."
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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2007 15:08:08 GMT -5
Well, since I don't really know much about this and cannot therefore submit anything new and enlightening, I was wondering if anybody caught MM's theory on this? It was rather humorous...he says we need to open our borders and allow the Mexican bees to take over as the American worker bees no longer want to do the work of the hive. The American worker bees have better things to do with their time like hit the town, watch football, etc. so we need Mexican worker bees to do the menial hard labor. There was more to it but it was funny.
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Post by dixiepixie on Apr 22, 2007 16:52:52 GMT -5
Well, since I don't really know much about this and cannot therefore submit anything new and enlightening, I was wondering if anybody caught MM's theory on this? It was rather humorous...he says we need to open our borders and allow the Mexican bees to take over as the American worker bees no longer want to do the work of the hive. The American worker bees have better things to do with their time like hit the town, watch football, etc. so we need Mexican worker bees to do the menial hard labor. There was more to it but it was funny. That sounds like Matt... ;D
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Post by killer on Apr 23, 2007 10:21:24 GMT -5
solinvictus wrote, "One of Monsanto's first acts when coming to Iraq was to require Iraqi farmers to purchase their patented seeds which are only good for one year. Let's face it: these sons of bitches are evil." [/blockquote ] How did they require the Iraqi farmers to buy their seeds? "Seeds which are only good for one year".... does that mean the farmers could only get a one years crop off of these seeds? And they would be prohibited from taking seeds from this crop to replant?
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Post by brandon on Apr 23, 2007 12:01:26 GMT -5
"Why Are All The Bees Dying"
I guess there's really no way to bee certain.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 23, 2007 12:38:53 GMT -5
funny brandon....
You would think that the impact of this, if a permanent condition, would get a lot more air time and scientific concern than Global Warming, since the effect of a drop in pollination of this magnitude could put world civilization in an extinct phase much earlier.
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Post by fragerella on Apr 23, 2007 14:24:41 GMT -5
"Why Are All The Bees Dying"I guess there's really no way to bee certain. Yeah, it just bees that way sometimes. (I was out of town for a convention all last week...looks like I've got some serious catching up to do!)
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Post by phinehas on Apr 23, 2007 15:06:09 GMT -5
Was it a Star Wars or Star Trek convention?
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Post by fragerella on Apr 23, 2007 16:41:35 GMT -5
If only I'd been so lucky....I was at NAB2007 in Las Vegas. Exciting, I know. lol
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Post by phinehas on Apr 23, 2007 16:55:04 GMT -5
NAB2007....that sounds lik.....ZZZZzzzzz. snughh...snort...what did you say? Las Vegas.
How was that? Did you catch the slot fever there? Were you having to walk around herds of prostitutes? Were there any honey bees there? Did CSI show up? Did you get to see Elvis...I mean, Celine?
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Post by fragerella on Apr 23, 2007 22:44:22 GMT -5
Meh...I'm too frugal to gamble. Besides, I'm with my coworkers & colleages when I'm there, so I have to fight the urge to join the annual running of the hookers. I didn't see Grissom either, boo-hiss. And, I only noticed two or three bees the entire trip. Killer, Found some info for you on that here.& here
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