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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 3:57:09 GMT -5
Twista -
How about I use the argument that you hate Christians and fear them....because you differ in opinion? That's the perspective I have and why I don't agree with that form of argument. It's not substaniated by any evidence. Again, it's your way of trying to understand why others think differently than you on a particular subject. It just has to be because of hate and fear....you have to give it an illogical reason and discount any logical reasons.
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Post by blondie on Apr 17, 2007 8:01:15 GMT -5
I'm not for gun control or ditching the second amendment but I've noticed the people that are the most militant pro-gun are paranoid, redneck racists. seems like a dangerous combination.
Hmm. How can I slant this to some liberal agenda? I know, racial profiling.
See, racial profiling doesn't work. Nobody would have expected a Chinese guy to do something like this.
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Post by Dale Jackson on Apr 17, 2007 8:30:21 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that "gun nuts" and "anti-gun nuts" across the web are trying to use this, fact are none of these kids would have been carrying weapons under any situation and gun control would not have stopped this either.
As for the University's response, they thought the guy left after the dorm shooting, so they made a call to keep the classes open, which was the wrong call. They were wrong, but the media piling on in regards to this is laughable, lots of what ifs... I want more info about this nutcase.
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 8:38:11 GMT -5
I think we should issue every college professor with a police style tazer for unruly students and situations like this.
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 8:45:08 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that "gun nuts" and "anti-gun nuts" across the web are trying to use this, fact are none of these kids would have been carrying weapons under any situation and gun control would not have stopped this either. As for the University's response, they thought the guy left after the dorm shooting, so they made a call to keep the classes open, which was the wrong call. They were wrong, but the media piling on in regards to this is laughable, lots of what ifs... I want more info about this nutcase. The only thing that the anti-gun nuts have a hard time getting through their thick heads is that gun control for the law abiding citizen will create victims at a rate no one can imagine. That is the point, this guy new that guns were not allowed on campus and that the mass confusion would allow him to take out as many people as he wished. If he knew that even a few people carried weapons he may have reconsidered, or maybe not since he took his own life, but the fact remains that if anyone had a weapon to defend themselves against this it would not have taken the toll that it did.
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 8:49:44 GMT -5
I, for this very reason carry my 9mm every where I go, and I train with it once a week at a local shooting range were we go through real life drills similar to urban combat training.
Fate does favor the well prepared. Call me a nut job but the world we live in I think anyone not prepared for the unexpected is a nut job.
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Post by blondie on Apr 17, 2007 8:59:13 GMT -5
I, for this very reason carry my 9mm every where I go, and I train with it once a week at a local shooting range were we go through real life drills similar to urban combat training. Fate does favor the well prepared. Call me a nut job but the world we live in I think anyone not prepared for the unexpected is a nut job. Almost everybody I know has a gun except me. espy, why do you need a gun? To shoot gay people?
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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 9:28:52 GMT -5
Why are you obsessed with the gays, blondie.
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 9:35:59 GMT -5
I, for this very reason carry my 9mm every where I go, and I train with it once a week at a local shooting range were we go through real life drills similar to urban combat training. Fate does favor the well prepared. Call me a nut job but the world we live in I think anyone not prepared for the unexpected is a nut job. Almost everybody I know has a gun except me. espy, why do you need a gun? To shoot gay people? Trying to make something out of nothing as usual, I carry it because of incidents like the one that just happened, or if someone tries to car jack us or someone else that is in range, or if your at a mall and someone goes off on a rampage. You would be thankful if I were around in that kind of situation. The only gay I would shoot would be one who was shooting first. In the end it is for self and family protection against any aggressor. [glow=red,2,300] [/glow]
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Post by espy on Apr 17, 2007 9:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by Dale Jackson on Apr 17, 2007 9:44:58 GMT -5
This whole forum is obsessed with gays. Get on topic.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 9:52:59 GMT -5
How does, "espy, why do you need a gun? To shoot gay people? " translate into the whole forum?
You should use a rifle instead of a shotgun.
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Post by killer on Apr 17, 2007 10:16:23 GMT -5
solomon wrote, "I just called in and pissed on Murphy's neocon candidates: Rudy and McCain. "
Is Murphy supporting these two? I rarely listen to his show so I don't know. But if he is supporting them, he has lost his way.
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2007 10:16:24 GMT -5
How does, "espy, why do you need a gun? To shoot gay people? " translate into the whole forum? You should use a rifle instead of a shotgun. Perhaps troops could round them all up and put them into gas chambers. That would be more fiscally efficient.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 10:20:48 GMT -5
"Perhaps troops could round them all up and put them into gas chambers. That would be more fiscally efficient."
I wasn't speaking about gay people and shooting them. I was speaking about Dale saying the WHOLE forum is obssesed about the gays when it was one person bringing them up, again.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 10:22:18 GMT -5
I should have quoted Dale, so the context would have been more clear. My fault.
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Post by alabamamtnman on Apr 17, 2007 10:31:25 GMT -5
not related to the shootings but most replies arent so far
No there hasnt been many mass shootings by gays
But according to FBI stats almost 87 percent of all serial killers are homosexual or have what they term homosexual tendancies
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Post by phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 10:37:06 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out the reasoning behind killing people in the other building. Chow yung fat took time to plan that part of the incident since he chained up some doors. Even crazy people have crazy reasons for why they do stuff.
I'm wondering if the guy she was dating is ever going to come forward. The media storm that is going to create when he does.
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Post by lawman on Apr 17, 2007 12:53:53 GMT -5
I, for this very reason carry my 9mm every where I go, and I train with it once a week at a local shooting range were we go through real life drills similar to urban combat training. Fate does favor the well prepared. Call me a nut job but the world we live in I think anyone not prepared for the unexpected is a nut job. Faith in God and fate don't mix, PERIOD, espy! If you can't TRUST GOD for your safety, etc., I'm not sure why?
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2007 13:31:33 GMT -5
State quashed bill allowing handguns on campuses College spokesman celebrated 2006 defeat because it would help make campus safewww.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55226More than one year before today's unprecedented shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, the state's General Assembly quashed a bill that would have given qualified college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus.
At the time, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said he was happy to hear of the bill's defeat, according to the Roanoke Times.
"I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus," the Virginia Tech spokesman said.
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Post by lawman on Apr 17, 2007 13:41:15 GMT -5
I just called in and pissed on Murphy's neocon candidates: Rudy and McCain. Rudy is pro fag, pro baby killing, anti self defense and he was partly responsible for demolishing the crime scene at ground zero. Many of NYFD and NYPD hate his guts. McCain is rabidly anti gun and anti free speech. www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htmThe neocon lap dogs at 101.1 hate cold hard facts. I told Matt I would not vote for Rudy or McCain and he stated my only other choice was Hilary of Obama. I replied Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter were good guys in the Republican party. I advised him this is possibly when Tancredo would cave in to gun grabbers like he did when Columbine went down. Matt shouted me down 2 or 3 times. Go see how the 2008 candidates measure up on the 2nd amendment. gunowners.org/pres08/Look at the constitution Party www.constitutionparty.com/Conservative Exodus Project: Conservatives are leaving the Republican Party join us. If they give the nomination to some neocon liberal watered down republican vote for the Constitution Party Candidate. They are the 3rd largest party and are rapidly growing. www.conservativeexodusproject.com/101.1 is a fraud!!! Watch them!! They will go on promoting Rudy or McCain. The constitution part could gain 20 million members over night and 101.1 would not beat the drum for them. They claim that Crawford Radio is a "God and Country" station but Matt demonized the Constitution Party as "Biblicists" like that is another form of terrorism or something. You 'Nailed it', Very well, Soly! Keep preaching, Bro..
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Post by killer on Apr 17, 2007 14:51:10 GMT -5
solomon wrote, "Brandon... If you are looking for that kind of companionship you'll need to go elsewhere. Genesis 13, read it. You want God to destroy your country? Just let the faggots run wild.
Dale edit: Thanks for playing. Let us all remember (http://attackmachine.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=onair&action=display&thread=1175824541). Was solomon banned?
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2007 15:07:07 GMT -5
*Like it or not, the pertinent part of the 14th Amendment had everything to do with securing equal rights for the freed slaves and nothing to do with homosexuality. Wait, I thought that the 14th Amendment referred to "U.S. citizens." I missed the part where it mentions "freed slaves."
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2007 15:15:49 GMT -5
solomon wrote, "Brandon... If you are looking for that kind of companionship you'll need to go elsewhere. Genesis 13, read it. You want God to destroy your country? Just let the faggots run wild.
Dale edit: Thanks for playing. Let us all remember (http://attackmachine.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=onair&action=display&thread=1175824541). Was solomon banned? Funny thing is, I think I've worked with this guy before up in Decatur. His name sounds familiar.
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Post by blondie on Apr 17, 2007 15:34:54 GMT -5
State quashed bill allowing handguns on campuses College spokesman celebrated 2006 defeat because it would help make campus safewww.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55226More than one year before today's unprecedented shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, the state's General Assembly quashed a bill that would have given qualified college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus.
At the time, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said he was happy to hear of the bill's defeat, according to the Roanoke Times.
"I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus," the Virginia Tech spokesman said. You ought to lay off the WorldNut. Why would you want to be spoon-feed propaganda? You're just going to remain ignorant by seeking out news sources that support your prejudices.
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2007 15:38:20 GMT -5
You ought to lay off the WorldNut. Why would you want to be spoon-feed propaganda? You're just going to remain ignorant by seeking out news sources that support your prejudices. Are you suggesting that the story is untrue? What part of the story can you show to be false?
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Post by Phinehas on Apr 17, 2007 16:44:29 GMT -5
*Like it or not, the pertinent part of the 14th Amendment had everything to do with securing equal rights for the freed slaves and nothing to do with homosexuality. Wait, I thought that the 14th Amendment referred to "U.S. citizens." I missed the part where it mentions "freed slaves." Read up on the reason for the q4th amendment and you will see that it was to address a speciifc people, ie. freed slaves. It has of course, been taken out of context now and used for the abortion and gay marriage debate but it wasn't written for that purpose at all.
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Post by blondie on Apr 17, 2007 16:47:06 GMT -5
You ought to lay off the WorldNut. Why would you want to be spoon-feed propaganda? You're just going to remain ignorant by seeking out news sources that support your prejudices. Are you suggesting that the story is untrue? What part of the story can you show to be false? It's just a non story to feed into a weird right-wing fantasy.
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Post by Twista on Apr 17, 2007 18:17:19 GMT -5
Twista - How about I use the argument that you hate Christians and fear them....because you differ in opinion? That's the perspective I have and why I don't agree with that form of argument. It's not substaniated by any evidence. Again, it's your way of trying to understand why others think differently than you on a particular subject. It just has to be because of hate and fear....you have to give it an illogical reason and discount any logical reasons. Hmm... then what would be a logical reason for this hate the christians example you used? I'd say that illogical fear is what often brings a person to hate another person, (or group of persons) especially when there has been no direct interaction between the two. Other times the fear may be from a direct interaction, but it seems that the fear/hate is often a product of the direction of group leaders, and is automatically accepted by the followers. Jihad anyone? But as I said earlier, it's not always a yes or no situation if one is open to other choices... And not everything reaches the point of being a Fear/Hate occurance, some things are more passively viewed because of a lower threat to a person... Kinda like listening to Davis droning on about something that I don't agree with... LOL
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Post by Twista on Apr 17, 2007 18:22:16 GMT -5
Re: Blondie... "You're just going to remain ignorant by seeking out news sources that support your prejudices." Heh... Doesn't everyone do that? LOL I thought that was what Mass Media and the Internet Bloggers were all about.. A comfort zone to interact with people who feel the same way as oneself... (that's why I come here all the time... LOL)
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