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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 6:23:42 GMT -5
Phinehas, What is this? Are you some kind of White supremest? www.aryan-nations.org/holyorder/Or just another new-ager that's invented your own pretend version of Christianity? Or neither or both?
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Post by Dale Jackson on Feb 6, 2007 6:44:53 GMT -5
Why? What is this in reference to?
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 6, 2007 6:55:10 GMT -5
I think this in blondie's way of trying to besmirch someone that he/she can't win a debate with. *shrugs*
Maybe amazon.com didn't have a book to prove P wrong in another thread.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 8:44:14 GMT -5
And its redundant. When phinehas had accused me of being an unwitting shill for NAMBLA I began a thread on this theme. Tin Can Preisthood
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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 9:03:38 GMT -5
It's a question about his icon. Thanks for the thoughtless insults though.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 10:50:31 GMT -5
MaccusGermanis - You are an unwitting shill for NAMBLA and I proved it.
blondie -neither. The book discredits them.
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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 11:16:49 GMT -5
MaccusGermanis - You are an unwitting shill for NAMBLA and I proved it. blondie -neither. The book discredits them. Is MaccusGermanis really a shill for NAMBLA? Here's a link everyone can enjoy. I thought it was a joke at first: www.cblf.org/So you brought up the Phinehas Priesthood just to cut them down? If you want to make up a new-age religion based on an obscure character in the OT go for Melchizedek: www.urantia.org/papers/paper93.htmlwww.melchizedek.com/dom/index.html
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 12:17:22 GMT -5
.....unwitting shill. We had a debate where he made some comments regarding homosexuality. I said that NAMBLA has and would use the parameters of those comments in order to push their agenda. He disagrees. Debate ended.
I didn't bring up Phineas Priesthood to cut them down. I also do not make up religions. I have one religion I adhere to.
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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 12:47:17 GMT -5
I didn't bring up Phineas Priesthood to cut them down. I also do not make up religions. I have one religion I adhere to. Aw man, you're killing me. Why did you choose that book cover for your avatar? Also, what's your religion? You know Jesus is an Avatar, just like your book cover. www.comparativereligion.com/avatars.html
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 13:13:51 GMT -5
blondie,
The book cover was chosen to counter MaccusGermanis's comments regarding the phinehas priesthood, in that not everyone that believes in Christian Identity believes in all other group's conclusions that take on aspects of Christian Identity.
I am a baptist that also believes:
1. The ten tribes of Israel that were taken in the Assyrian captivity eventually went westward and populated the European nations.
2. I believe in the serpent seed doctrine which begins in Genesis and is described by Jesus in the parable of the Tares. Jesus tells the parable and then explains the parable plainly to the disciples. The serpent seed is NOT black people and these people are to be left alone as Jesus ordered.
3. I believe that the earth is millions of years old and that there is a gap in time between Genesis 1 and 2 were the facts of science, including the dinosaurs are figured in.
4. I believe that the earth was created perfect and became ruined during the gap period. The earth was then changed from it's ruined state to it's current state and that it was done in a literal six days.
That should be enough for you to chew on.
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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 15:30:25 GMT -5
When you say Baptist I assume you mean Southern Baptist? This American denomination was created as a break away from the now, predominately Black, regular Baptists. I assume your not Black because you seem to be a bit of an apologist for the Christian Identity movement. If you ever start reading I recommend this book: www.amazon.com/American-Religion-Eemergence-Post-Christian-Nation/dp/0671867377Half the book is about the Mormons and the second half is about the Southern Baptists. The question the author asks is "what do the Baptists believe?" The only thing the various Southern Baptists had in common up until recently was the adult baptism and the sovereignty of the individual churches. Did you know the Baptists were very progressive in the 60s and 70s? They even ordained women and allowed for some abortions. Then they became identified with the neo-cons to a point where politics and religion became dangerously close. Anyway, it seems you're just another cafeteria Protestant. So actually you are making up your own religion, but that's not unusual at all. It never ceases to amaze me that people would rather make stuff up than look stuff up. Your ideas about the age of the Earth and the lost tribes of Israel aren't something an adult has any business believing in. Genesis 1 and 2 were almost certainly written by different people. They even use a different name for god. From what I understand archaeologists have learned a tremendous amount these people and they look almost nothing like what you learned in Sunday school. I'm pretty sure there's no actual physical evidence that the ancient Hebrews were even Monotheistic.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:07:23 GMT -5
MaccusGermanis - You are an unwitting shill for NAMBLA and I proved it. Surely you jest? Do you now claim to be able to prove the volition of a pedophilles victim? You never have. My language was carefully chosen to give neither you nor NAMBLA any leeway of re-interpretation.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:11:49 GMT -5
blondie,
Thanks for another Amazon link. Think what you want..you certainly gave me no reason to take pause. My belief that the ten tribes went west has nothing to do with black people...you're basing that off of groups that add this stuff to the equation. That it out of my control and of no concern to me.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:17:05 GMT -5
Such theories would seem a simple enough thing to test for. Ethiopian preist class did prove to have similar DNA to Jewish Cohens. How far East do you think these tribes went? Do you believe the Japanese eye-nu (spelled phonetically from memory) to be a lost tribe?
Edit: You did say West didn't you? Well I doubt neither of us thinks the earth to be flat.
Edit: This post is a nightmare. I'd intended that I doubt that either of us thinks the earth to be flat.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:17:19 GMT -5
MaccusGermanis - You are an unwitting shill for NAMBLA and I proved it. Surely you jest? Do you now claim to be able to prove the volition of a pedophilles victim? You never have. My language was carefully chosen to give neither you nor NAMBLA any leeway of re-interpretation. Sorry, not jesting...you continue to fail to see that NAMBLA does not present their agenda as pedophilia. Continuing to ignore that is what will allow them to slip through eventually in the same manner that homosexual activists succeeded on. NAMBLA is following the homosexual activism playbook. Also, I don't require any leeway because I don't hold to or agree with NAMBLA's position on anything. I proved the points I had made in the other thread. You disagree that I did. I went over it numerous times and you still failed to understand it. We have a difference on opinion...not much more to say, that's why I ended the debate.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:20:12 GMT -5
Surely you jest? Do you now claim to be able to prove the volition of a pedophilles victim? You never have. My language was carefully chosen to give neither you nor NAMBLA any leeway of re-interpretation. Sorry, not jesting...you continue to fail to see that NAMBLA does not present their agenda as pedophilia. Continuing to ignore that is what will allow them to slip through eventually in the same manner that homosexual activists succeeded on. NAMBLA is following the homosexual activism playbook. Also, I don't require any leeway because I don't hold to or agree with NAMBLA's position on anything. I proved the points I had made in the other thread. You disagree that I did. I went over it numerous times and you still failed to understand it. We have a difference on opinion...not much more to say, that's why I ended the debate. You ended the debate the same way it will be ended this time. If you can not prove why NAMBLA should clebrate my comments then quit again. I have from your first implication understood your comments and the mistake that you did make.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:27:33 GMT -5
Such theories would seem a simple enough thing to test for. Ethiopian preist class did prove to have similar DNA to Jewish Cohens. How far East do you think these tribes went? Do you believe the Japanese eye-nu (spelled phonetically from memory) to be a lost tribe? The ten tribes mainly went west when they left Halah, Habor and the cities of Medes. A portion of them could have went further east. There is also the fact that that a portion of Israel left to other areas and that prior to Israel being a kingdom, they moved around. As far as the Cohens, it's not rock solid that they go back any further past the return of the babylonian captivity....who knows what mixtures of people intertwined at that point. It has to be remembered that when king Shalmaneser took Samaria he put in their place a different people, which was the manner of their conquests.
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Post by blondie on Feb 6, 2007 16:28:28 GMT -5
blondie, Thanks for another Amazon link. Think what you want..you certainly gave me no reason to take pause. My belief that the ten tribes went west has nothing to do with black people...you're basing that off of groups that add this stuff to the equation. That it out of my control and of no concern to me. I've read some of your posts. You're hung up on the coloreds. Your belief that the lost tribes of Israel became the Europeans and thus the elite in America is a fantasy. What do you base this on? The migration of humans is pretty well understood. Sure there are a lot of holes but those are questions to be answered as the evidence is discovered. If it turns out your right on this one I'll send you some Omaha Steaks.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:29:27 GMT -5
Sorry, not jesting...you continue to fail to see that NAMBLA does not present their agenda as pedophilia. Continuing to ignore that is what will allow them to slip through eventually in the same manner that homosexual activists succeeded on. NAMBLA is following the homosexual activism playbook. Also, I don't require any leeway because I don't hold to or agree with NAMBLA's position on anything. I proved the points I had made in the other thread. You disagree that I did. I went over it numerous times and you still failed to understand it. We have a difference on opinion...not much more to say, that's why I ended the debate. You ended the debate the same way it will be ended this time. If you can not prove why NAMBLA should clebrate my comments then quit again. I have from your first implication understood your comments and the mistake that you did make. I quit because I could no longer waste time explaining a simple concept over and over in varying ways. I gave you proof, you rejected it..not much else I can do now is there?
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:31:49 GMT -5
blondie,
You will not find any of my posts to reflect any superiority thoughts in relation to different races. I base it on archeological facts, historical facts and biblical revelation that agrees with those facts.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:34:37 GMT -5
I quit because I could no longer waste time explaining a simple concept over and over in varying ways. I gave you proof, you rejected it..not much else I can do now is there? Tell me about it. I think it a rather simple concept that neither the pedophilles (NAMBLA) nor those that might intercede on their behalf (you) can prove the volition of the victims.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:37:03 GMT -5
Such theories would seem a simple enough thing to test for. Ethiopian preist class did prove to have similar DNA to Jewish Cohens. How far East do you think these tribes went? Do you believe the Japanese eye-nu (spelled phonetically from memory) to be a lost tribe? The ten tribes mainly went west when they left Halah, Habor and the cities of Medes. A portion of them could have went further east. There is also the fact that that a portion of Israel left to other areas and that prior to Israel being a kingdom, they moved around. As far as the Cohens, it's not rock solid that they go back any further past the return of the babylonian captivity....who knows what mixtures of people intertwined at that point. It has to be remembered that when king Shalmaneser took Samaria he put in their place a different people, which was the manner of their conquests. Interesting, Do you think all Europeans are from such lineage or do you have a more specific group in mind?
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Post by billt on Feb 6, 2007 16:40:23 GMT -5
corny after reading your post as usual difficult to understand.
are you saying you dont "think" the white race is superior, but rather that YOU KNOW it is based on "I base it on archeological facts, historical facts and biblical revelation that agrees with those facts."?
summed up you say you are NOT a racist for thinking whites are superior because by golly they are.
thanks for the insight.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:48:24 GMT -5
I quit because I could no longer waste time explaining a simple concept over and over in varying ways. I gave you proof, you rejected it..not much else I can do now is there? Tell me about it. I think it a rather simple concept that neither the pedophilles (NAMBLA) nor those that might intercede on their behalf (you) can prove the volition of the victims. Did not the Congressional page scandal highlight anything to you? The age of consent is 16 years old in D.C. NAMBLA is made up of people that THINK they have consenual sex with children. I have not interceded on their behalf...never did and never will. I am trying to convince you, failing I admit, that they will use deception, emotion and the law, just like the homosexual activists did in order to further their agenda. Rather simple, I gave you a link that specifically stated that they used the same exact strategy as homosexual activists did in a city....What other proof do you need in order to accept that it is their agenda. I don't know if it is going to occur, I just know that it is the means they have used and will use.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 16:52:40 GMT -5
Tell me about it. I think it a rather simple concept that neither the pedophilles (NAMBLA) nor those that might intercede on their behalf (you) can prove the volition of the victims. Did not the Congressional page scandal highlight anything to you? The age of consent is 16 years old in D.C. NAMBLA is made up of people that THINK they have consenual sex with children. I have not interceded on their behalf...never did and never will. I am trying to convince you, failing I admit, that they will use deception, emotion and the law, just like the homosexual activists did in order to further their agenda. Rather simple, I gave you a link that specifically stated that they used the same exact strategy as homosexual activists did in a city....What other proof do you need in order to accept that it is their agenda. I don't know if it is going to occur, I just know that it is the means they have used and will use. The mistake that you continue to make is that while homosexuals can prove the volition of their supposed consensual partners, it is impossible for NAMBLA to prove the volition of persons that are not of age to give consent.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 16:59:42 GMT -5
corny after reading your post as usual difficult to understand. are you saying you dont "think" the white race is superior, but rather that YOU KNOW it is based on "I base it on archeological facts, historical facts and biblical revelation that agrees with those facts."? summed up you say you are NOT a racist for thinking whites are superior because by golly they are. thanks for the insight. I think all races have genetic differences that exhibit advantages but I don't subscribe to the thought one race is superior.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 17:02:07 GMT -5
Did not the Congressional page scandal highlight anything to you? The age of consent is 16 years old in D.C. NAMBLA is made up of people that THINK they have consenual sex with children. I have not interceded on their behalf...never did and never will. I am trying to convince you, failing I admit, that they will use deception, emotion and the law, just like the homosexual activists did in order to further their agenda. Rather simple, I gave you a link that specifically stated that they used the same exact strategy as homosexual activists did in a city....What other proof do you need in order to accept that it is their agenda. I don't know if it is going to occur, I just know that it is the means they have used and will use. The mistake that you continue to make is that while homosexuals can prove the volition of their supposed consensual partners, it is impossible for NAMBLA to prove the volition of persons that are not of age to give consent. .....and they continue to try to lower the age of consent which is part of their agenda. Again, I never said they could prove it...only that THEY think they can and that THEY have followed in the footsteps of the homosexual activists. I don't understand how this is a point of contention with you.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 6, 2007 17:07:09 GMT -5
The ten tribes mainly went west when they left Halah, Habor and the cities of Medes. A portion of them could have went further east. There is also the fact that that a portion of Israel left to other areas and that prior to Israel being a kingdom, they moved around. As far as the Cohens, it's not rock solid that they go back any further past the return of the babylonian captivity....who knows what mixtures of people intertwined at that point. It has to be remembered that when king Shalmaneser took Samaria he put in their place a different people, which was the manner of their conquests. Interesting, Do you think all Europeans are from such lineage or do you have a more specific group in mind? Probably not ALL, since there were people in Europe before hand. The majority are and any that were not have been mixed in. That being said, the people that were there in Europe before were the same people, just that they were not from the branch of people, ie. the Israelites that the blessings, promises and covenant were made. All that live within the walls of these people are indirectly blessed.
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Post by MaccusGermanis on Feb 6, 2007 17:10:10 GMT -5
The mistake that you continue to make is that while homosexuals can prove the volition of their supposed consensual partners, it is impossible for NAMBLA to prove the volition of persons that are not of age to give consent. .....and they continue to try to lower the age of consent which is part of their agenda. Again, I never said they could prove it...only that THEY think they can and that THEY have followed in the footsteps of the homosexual activists. I don't understand how this is a point of contention with you. Because you brought up the issue of gays in relation to drug decriminalization. The problem kind of parallels the gay issue in a way. There is a group that would like the acceptance of homosexuality to be the norm but doing so would open up the door for other sexual deviations to be forced into acceptance by the populace. Homosexuality being, like marijuana, the most "reasonable" compared to the other sexual deviations restrained and unaccepted by society in general. My response was. And what would those other objectionable acts be? I can think of no other sexual deviation in which the volition of both parties can be assured. Law and morality is not contingent on any eww factor but rather the balance of personal liberties. Then you said, NAMBLA loves to hear those sentiments. I believe you were planning NAMBLA's celebration prematurely. You have still not shown how NAMBLA can prove the volition of both parties.
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