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Post by outcast on Mar 10, 2007 11:32:38 GMT -5
Judge warns of child-abusing homeschoolers Court is 'shocked' by lack of government authority over students Quote from the story- Read all hereNow Although I do not agree with government stepping in to home schooling or any other part of are lives that it thinks it has a right to be in I some how do think that maybe home school needs to have some sort of a overseer of some sort, so that things such as in this story doesn't happen
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Post by phinehas on Mar 10, 2007 12:26:12 GMT -5
Overseer = family, friends or at the very least neighbors. It's one thing to willingly go to a government institution and accept their regulatory oversight, it's another to allow them into your home. That is not a good precedent to even be thinking about!
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Post by billt on Mar 10, 2007 12:46:16 GMT -5
taking an example of ONE family that abuses their children and claiming that has anything to do with "home schooling" is pure LUNACY.
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Post by outcast on Mar 10, 2007 12:58:36 GMT -5
Yes Family friends is the ways to go, And no I don't want government in my home , I don't want government telling me how i can and can't live my life!
But look where we are now, and it all begin from something like this,
if ya read the story 1 judge has seen 1 bad story and is now talking a government take over,
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Post by clinthall on Mar 10, 2007 14:45:45 GMT -5
Just read the opinion. It appears that the court is stepping far outside of its constitutionally-determined role in setting forth a lengthy polemic in favor of additional government regulation of home schooling. Judges are certainly free to argue on behalf of their own policy preferences, but shouldn't do so in written opinions. Save it for a Letter to the Editor.
Outcast, "home Schooling" isn't "scary" because some nuts mistreated their children. If we made policy decisions based on periodic abuses by misguided individuals, we'd have to junk our public school systems, too, in light of all the abuses that take place there.
Nor is additional government oversight required in Alabama, where homeschooled students must submit annually to standardized testing, etc. An oversight scheme--albeit a minimal one--is already in place.
Even if more oversight was warranted, I'm hardly convinced that our educators and school administrators would be competent to carry it out. It's a telling indictment of our public school systems that the "amateur" efforts of homeschooling parents produce children who overwhelmingly perform better academically than their publicly-schooled peers.
Homeschooling works, it's working, and it will continue to work. I see no point in fixing what isn't broken.
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Post by dixiepixie on Mar 10, 2007 18:45:54 GMT -5
taking an example of ONE family that abuses their children and claiming that has anything to do with "home schooling" is pure LUNACY. bill, I don't think the "home schooling" had anything to do with the abuse, except allow the abuser a way to keep the abuse from being discovered.
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Post by outcast on Mar 10, 2007 19:06:25 GMT -5
I talked to a lady here where I live who home schools, Me and my wife have talked about home schooling and are thinking on it, anyways she told me that every month her and her kids have to report to the central location for evaluation,
they must not have that in new jersey!
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Post by zoomixer on Mar 10, 2007 19:49:33 GMT -5
Well said, Clint! IMO Homeschooling would actually be ideal for any family who is willing and able to make the sacrifices it requires.
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Post by clinthall on Mar 10, 2007 19:56:58 GMT -5
I talked to a lady here where I live who home schools, Me and my wife have talked about home schooling and are thinking on it, anyways she told me that every month her and her kids have to report to the central location for evaluation Folks I know who were home schooled in Alabama had no such monthly reporting requirement. The circumstances you describe may stem from an institution's reporting requirement; I don't think the state mandates that sort of "checking in." Nor should it.
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Post by outcast on Mar 10, 2007 20:00:22 GMT -5
from what I have seen just from talking to others about it , They told me that they had to be with a group, In this case its a privite school here in haleyville and they go there once a month so parents and the kids and meet one another, I could be wrong will get more info and then let ya know for sure
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Post by clinthall on Mar 10, 2007 20:05:51 GMT -5
Outcast, sounds like a typical "homeschool group" once-a-month get-together for fun, games, comparing notes, etc. If I recall correctly, no state-mandated evaluating goes on at these meetings. They're either voluntary or done pursuant to the policy of the group under whose umbrella the home schooling is done. I could be wrong, though; it's been a while.
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Post by killer on Mar 10, 2007 21:13:37 GMT -5
outcast,
You said you and your wife are thinking about homeschooling. That's great! Do it! Those who make the sacrifice to homeschool are richly rewarded.
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Post by outcast on Mar 10, 2007 22:09:42 GMT -5
outcast, You said you and your wife are thinking about homeschooling. That's great! Do it! Those who make the sacrifice to homeschool are richly rewarded. Yeah we are looking in to it just started looking and getting info, I work days, and lots of days I work from home, The wife works nights and days , how ever one of us are here at all times with the girls so it would really work out well. umbrella! thats the home schooling lingo that i was told, OK so thats not mandatory? but I think is still good I did hear that the home schoolers in this area are always doing things together Field trips at least once a week going to look more and make a decision by next school year
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Post by jamiko on Mar 22, 2007 23:17:57 GMT -5
family or freinds or neighbors? what if your in the middle of the woods in a trailor with dead beat parents i know plenty of kids like that that said they were "homeschooled"
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Post by tusker on Apr 4, 2007 3:42:48 GMT -5
Regulating home-schooling is like saying you're going to peer into the home of every American to see whether or not they might be abusing their kids. Abuse happens and a lot of it isn't reported until later if at all, but there's not logical way to do something like that.
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Post by bamagatr on Apr 4, 2007 5:28:19 GMT -5
Wow...how slick it was of this reporter....and it WORKED!!
To take a child abuse case, and slip in there that the child was ALLEGEDLY "home-schooled"...what a pure crock of crap...but it worked...here we are discussing the fake issue of government oversight of home schooling...(which there already is by the way)
Anyone who is of the mindset of this degree of child abuse is hardly interested in ANY kind of education...so...this isn't AT ALL an issue about home schooling...
Was that report from one of blondie's objective sources which are objective?...like the Associated Press...or maybe the NEA?
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