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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 19, 2007 14:24:54 GMT -5
Well, it happened again. As I type this, the interstate (I20 east bound between I459 and the 1st Leeds exit)is closed and crews are working to clean up an overturned truck and it's load.
I heard the call from Charles (I think? Real smooth voice?)that other day. His idea to transport these loads in recessed trailers is a great idea. I can't understand why this is not the way things are done. When I listened to the caller, it was almost a slap your forehead moment.
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henry
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Post by henry on Feb 19, 2007 14:42:07 GMT -5
Well the recessed trailer is a good Idea. Puting the driver in jail and fine the company 20 grand instead of 2 grand might have an impact as well
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 20, 2007 4:19:53 GMT -5
Well the recessed trailer is a good Idea. Puting the driver in jail and fine the company 20 grand instead of 2 grand might have an impact as well Well, there was a fatality later on because of this crash. I say the family should sue the company that had the first crash. A wrongful death suit on the grounds that the second crash was directly caused by the first.
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Post by meatman on Feb 20, 2007 16:47:22 GMT -5
Well the recessed trailer is a good Idea. Puting the driver in jail and fine the company 20 grand instead of 2 grand might have an impact as well What I can't understand is why these companies aren't just required to use approved (read:specialized) trailers for these loads. I mean after all, you don't haul gas in 55 gallon drums on a flat bed, thats what tanker trailers are for. I have a CDL, and as many types of trucks as I've driven. and loads I've hauled, most have been loaded in the appropriate manner (except in the Army which is a whole nuther story!). This is something that could be easily remedied, it's just the added cost that keeps it the status quo.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 20, 2007 16:49:46 GMT -5
mm,
That's a good point. I wonder how this issue plays out in other states. I wonder if they use specialized trailers. If the problem goes away if the coils are laying flat and if it's cheaper, then all they need to do is work out a way for the crane to use an attachment that put's the coil on laying flat and be able to take it off flat but get it on it's side. Seems like a simple issue for somebody to rig up something if they spent a day or two on the problem. If we can engineer a trip to the moon, these stupid coils should be an easy fix.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 20, 2007 17:13:05 GMT -5
found this: www.bhamwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_interstate_accidents_caused_by_dropped_steelHow Australia deals with it: www.safetyline.wa.gov.au/newsite/worksafe/content/industries/manufacturing/manugenl0002.html#5How they might deal with it soon...sounds like an economical way of doing it. Steel Coil Cradle to Eliminate Packaging Materials BlueScope Steel's Service Centre and BlueScope Lysaght businesses in Australia have embarked upon a project to reduce the packaging materials used in the transport of steel coils by hundreds of tonnes each year.
When steel coils are transported between the Springhill Works at Port Kembla and Service Centres and BlueScope Lysaght sites around Australia, they are currently packed using wooden pallets, plastic sheets, steel strapping and edge protectors that can be made of cardboard, steel or plastic.
Working with a pallet supplier, the company has trialled a new packaging system that not only reduces manual handling and the time involved in packing and unpacking coils, but eliminates the need for almost all packaging materials.
BlueScope Steel has worked with pallet supplier BEK Equipment to develop a steel coil cradle that safely transports both full width and slit coils, with virtually no packaging required.
The coil cradle incorporates non-slip rubber protection for the coils and allows coils to be transported in an upright position, ready for further processing at their destination. The cradle is then returned to the originating site for reuse.
The new system has been successfully trialled with coils transported by truck between Port Kembla and the Company's Service Centre and BlueScope Lysaght site at Chullora in Sydney. These trials have supported the assumptions of the project team, with the coils being delivered to their destination in perfect condition.
The team are now trialling the coil cradle over longer distances and on rail as well as road transport.
Once fully proven, the project has the potential to eliminate hundreds of tonnes of waste material, which would otherwise go to landfill each year.csereport2005.bluescopesteel.com/navajo/display.cfm/objectID.E4AD619D-F50E-41BF-F7D965DC20E37A66www.bluescopesteel.com/file/download.cfm?DownloadFile=76FB566D-DE7F-4152-AC37A6DD28AFDED8Search PDF for Roborack www.bluescopesteel.com/index.cfm?objectid=BE651037-E499-43D3-BC443E7DCD5D3B87&navID=25EFC886-C31C-4C65-B242495CF8AE82B4
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Post by alabamamtnman on Feb 28, 2007 21:00:06 GMT -5
you know rounded objects dont move much placed on their flat sides. why do they keep standing these things on edge? no special trailer required just lay dang things on their flat sides. y
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Post by outcast on Mar 8, 2007 1:02:44 GMT -5
you know rounded objects dont move much placed on their flat sides. why do they keep standing these things on edge? no special trailer required just lay dang things on their flat sides. y The problem with that is it will damage the coils, and its hard to load and unload, But like my uncle said and he has hauled thousands of these, if the driver would take a few more minutes and put a few extra chains on the load it will not come off, Its like a story he was telling me about 2 guys was laughing cause he was putting 3 chains on front and 3 on back , and used a pipe to snug the binders down, they used 2! well he said it took him about 15 minutes longer then them , but after 45 years of hauling he never lost a load, So if drivers today would listen to drivers of yesterday , they would make their full haul.
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