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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 14:29:25 GMT -5
These guys say they "serve" by being behind the microphone over airwaves. Since they like the war so much and think it is right thing to do, would their time be better spent in uniform over in Iraq? Shouldn't they sign up and go help the cause?
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 15:01:14 GMT -5
That is ridiculous. Volunteer military means no forced service. Lame tired argument.
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 16:28:32 GMT -5
So you don't want to see them come back without their limbs? That's nice (and caring.)
Look on the bright side, Dale. Maybe if they left for Iraq, you could have their job.
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Post by billt on May 24, 2007 16:32:43 GMT -5
dale what is "lame" about suggesting that the war hawks if they so desire and think the war is needed SERVE?
far easier to send others to make war, then to put your own life on the line.....i KNOW for i watched many peers don dresses or head to canada when they got low draft numbers.....of course some like me got higher numbers and werent drafted, BUT chose to serve anyway!
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 16:38:27 GMT -5
Looks like I am gonna be OK. I will be back on the air on the 4th.
It is a volunteer military, and you can not automatically discount someones opinion on the reasons of this war because they have not personally experienced war. The two are not related. Same goes for people who say I have served and this war is just. There is no correlation.
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 16:46:24 GMT -5
A volunteeer army -- where mostly poor people sign up because of limited options and they need money to eat. It's easy with those who have a pretty comfortable life to sit back in their recliners and say, "Send the boys to fight.... and oh, pass the cheese dip."
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 17:00:46 GMT -5
dale wrote, "It is a volunteer military, and you can not automatically discount someones opinion on the reasons of this war because they have not personally experienced war. The two are not related. Same goes for people who say I have served and this war is just. There is no correlation."
I put far more weight on the opinions of those who have served vs. those who have not. That should be a no brainer. I remember meeting a veteran who served in Korea. He said he would kill Bush if he walked in the room -- he said he hated him for sending our boys to Iraq. He said they are being used just as they were in Korea.
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 17:38:17 GMT -5
Well that guy seems like a reasonable fellow. Well what do I do when I have veterans telling me they understand the need for sacrifice. Which veteran do I listen to? Hmmm I guess I will form my own opinion.
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 17:53:29 GMT -5
According to your post #4, you would listen to neither in regard to forming an opinion.
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 17:55:24 GMT -5
Which was reiterated in post 7.
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Post by kevin on May 24, 2007 18:03:11 GMT -5
So, are you saying that we should have a poll on the war, and whoever votes to "stay the course" should automatically be signed up for the armed services? I'll admit, that's one way to skew the poll numbers . This was a joke BTW. I never cared for going to war because I'm not convinced it was necessary, but I'm no tactician either. So I can't even pretend to assert it was right or wrong. Sorry to be lukewarm.
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 18:05:54 GMT -5
Better to admit you are lukewarm and admit you don't know than be a dumb ass who acts like they know all when they don't.
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 19:05:39 GMT -5
I think I am right, as do you. So does that make us both dumb asses or just people who disagree with you?
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 19:13:23 GMT -5
Are you on your period? I was not referring to you as a dumb-ass. Was not even thinking of you when I posted that. I was trying to give kevin a compliment.
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 24, 2007 19:17:02 GMT -5
I don't get my period anymore.
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Post by killer on May 24, 2007 19:19:41 GMT -5
The Greeks call that "A worthless woman."
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Post by lawman on May 24, 2007 19:38:42 GMT -5
The Greeks call that "A worthless woman." killer, you're not Greek...are you? And not a Worthless Woman!
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Post by richbrout on May 25, 2007 7:16:53 GMT -5
I agree that to discredit someone's opinion over the war because they are 50 and not serving in it is the same as crying that someone that doesn't support the government policy is disloyal or "helping" the enemy.
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Post by brandon on May 25, 2007 11:58:51 GMT -5
A volunteeer army -- where mostly poor people sign up because of limited options and they need money to eat. It's easy with those who have a pretty comfortable life to sit back in their recliners and say, "Send the boys to fight.... and oh, pass the cheese dip." Good line. And I agree.
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Post by killer on May 25, 2007 13:48:22 GMT -5
rich, Murphy's still young enough to serve and Davis has more energy than a 30 year old.
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Post by solinvictus on May 25, 2007 16:31:48 GMT -5
I could see Moonpie in the service; the instant he mouthed off, he'd get his ass kicked. Lee Davis continually brings up how he was # 6529 (on the Mountain Brook draft board, wink wink!) on the draft list for Viet Nam. Yeah, gotta love chickenhawks who've never worn a uniform in any capacity.
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Post by lawman on May 25, 2007 16:45:40 GMT -5
I could see Moonpie in the service; the instant he mouthed off, he'd get his ass kicked. Lee Davis continually brings up how he was # 6529 (on the Mountain Brook draft board, wink wink!) on the draft list for Viet Nam. Yeah, gotta love chickenhawks who've never worn a uniform in any capacity. Lee Davis IS the biggest 'blowhard' phony 'Shill' in (barely) Talk Radio..... Murphy's close to the same thing....but he's not a 'joke'....like davis!
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Post by dixiepixie on May 26, 2007 4:29:53 GMT -5
A volunteeer army -- where mostly poor people sign up because of limited options and they need money to eat. This statement is so insulting to the people who choose to make a career in the military. It also shows how very backwards your mind works, Andrea. I have friends and family who serve in the military, both active and reserve. They ALL made the choice, not because they had no other, but because they felt it was the right thing to do, and because it gave them many different options for their lives. My older brother is a Cytological Specialist in the Air Force. He will be ready to retire in less than a year. When he retires at the ripe old age of 38, he and his wife and kids are moving to the Keys where he is part owner of a charter boat business. I would say that your incorrect assumptions about the military are based on your lofty view from the pedestal you have perched yourself on.
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Post by kevin on May 26, 2007 8:13:29 GMT -5
A volunteeer army -- where mostly poor people sign up because of limited options and they need money to eat. This statement is so insulting to the people who choose to make a career in the military. It also shows how very backwards your mind works, Andrea. I have friends and family who serve in the military, both active and reserve. They ALL made the choice, not because they had no other, but because they felt it was the right thing to do, and because it gave them many different options for their lives. My older brother is a Cytological Specialist in the Air Force. He will be ready to retire in less than a year. When he retires at the ripe old age of 38, he and his wife and kids are moving to the Keys where he is part owner of a charter boat business. I would say that your incorrect assumptions about the military are based on your lofty view from the pedestal you have perched yourself on. And it IS slightly reminiscent of a statement that a certain Mr. Kerry made some time back. I know a fella that is in the Army Reserve -- he was telling me about how much money HS graduates could make for college by going into the military now. Nothing wrong with serving AND getting money for college so your not saddled with college loans for many years.
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Post by killer on May 26, 2007 13:56:28 GMT -5
My statement is true. Might not be a politically correct statement to make, but it's true.
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Post by dixiepixie on May 26, 2007 14:07:17 GMT -5
My statement is true. Might not be a politically correct statement to make, but it's true. Prove that the only people in the military are poor people who have no choice. My family, while not rolling in the dough rich, was very comfortable when my brother joined. He reinvested money that was put aside for his education and now his oldest child is a Sophomore at Auburn. My best friend is STILL in the reserves, and he IS from a well to do family. I do not know one single person who joined the military because they had no other choice. I want to see your numbers and facts, Andrea. So either put up some facts or shut up insulting the intelligence of our military.
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 26, 2007 14:15:04 GMT -5
Hate to bust up your's and Kerry's perception that the military is full of poor morons, not that it matters to you as you see it as "true."
Now just in case any members of the military are reading this, and killer and Kerry know they are just big poor dummies, I will quote the important part again -
killer your "true statements" are not only politically incorrect, they are also blatantly untrue.
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Post by lawman on May 26, 2007 15:15:11 GMT -5
Hate to bust up your's and Kerry's perception that the military is full of poor morons, not that it matters to you as you see it as "true." Now just in case any members of the military are reading this, and killer and Kerry know they are just big poor dummies, I will quote the important part again - killer your "true statements" are not only politically incorrect, they are also blatantly untrue. If Gilroy said it....guess that settles it? ?
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Post by Dale Jackson on May 26, 2007 15:18:12 GMT -5
Hmmm. I guess that is better than an actual response. So let me try. If Gilroy said it then it must obviosly be a lie? ?
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Post by lawman on May 26, 2007 15:23:08 GMT -5
Hmmm. I guess that is better than an actual response. So let me try. If Gilroy said it then it must obviosly be a lie? ? Curious, is he the same guy who told us Clinton wasn't bombing any 'Aspirin factory's' in '98 or '99?
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