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Post by richbrout on May 12, 2007 13:42:46 GMT -5
If you have a 60 watt light bulb, is 60 the amount of watts used in an hour or is there a way to determine how much electricity and item uses in an hour?
I think in regards to conservation, it would be a good idea if there was a small eletrical meter inside residences. That way, if I wanted to leave my AC off one day and run it the next day, I could get a general idea of how much electricity I am using and how much I am spending or saving with those decisions.
Any ideas on this? ;D
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Post by billt on May 12, 2007 14:05:25 GMT -5
please understand this is in no way intended to be insulting.
how sad is it when a person with advanced college degrees needs help with such simple calculations?
electricity is sold by the KW hour which is 1000watts of usage for an hour.
the daily/monthly cost is written on the bill.
divide your dollar amount on the bill by the total KW uased and that is the price per KW....it can vary from month to month based on the cost of the production of electricity, when rain falls often more hydro is generated and that costs less.
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Post by kevin on May 12, 2007 14:30:44 GMT -5
please understand this is in no way intended to be insulting. how sad is it when a person with advanced college degrees needs help with such simple calculations? Hmmm, not meant to be insulting but then you insult him? If you had left the first 2 sentences off then it would not have been insulting. The 1st sentence doesn't make up for the second... Not that it was really that insulting but I thought it was all ironic .
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Post by billt on May 12, 2007 14:36:04 GMT -5
that was a general comment about the state of education, NOT rich as a person, i wrote the first sentence because i KNEW people would misread it as an insult to rich, YOU gave the example thank you.
the POINT is those things are taught in elementary school and people with advanced degrees should KNOW this information.
a person with an advanced education should KNOW stuff! for sure things taught in grade school.
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Post by richbrout on May 12, 2007 14:49:55 GMT -5
BillT-
For someone that is as intelligent as you, I am constantly amazed at your lack of the most basic People skills.
Thanks for the answer. Although it did not answer the question. I am interested in the individual items' electrical use. Does the light bulb use 60 watts in an hour? your reading comprehension skills suck.
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Post by billt on May 12, 2007 15:02:36 GMT -5
60 watts rating means it uses 60 watts per hour.
and my answer DID have the information that wattage is expressed in per hour.
"electricity is sold by the KW hour which is 1000watts of usage for an hour."
i answered with a general example rather than the exact 60 watt bulb in your question.....the way you asked for of how much an item uses in an hour is its wattage rating that is expressed in per hour terms.
my people skills? sounds like a personal comment to me
i comprehended your question with no problem and answered it, you just werent able to extract the information because of my straightforward wording.
why do so many people seem to have problem with simple straightforward posts?
does this people skills stuff come from the self esteem building of recent years?
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Post by kevin on May 12, 2007 15:02:56 GMT -5
BillT - you fail in your logic. Rich was the only one posing the question so even if you stated your point in generalities, it would naturally lead back to an accusation against Rich's lack of basic math skills. Duh. Rich - Here ya goGoogle is your friend. The above was found by searching with the terms "60w" "light bulb" "electricity" "use". And google won't insult you (oh yeah, not you but other people with advanced degrees ;D) for your lack of math skills .
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Post by billt on May 12, 2007 15:08:44 GMT -5
i did not question or comment on rich's skills, he expressed a need for the basic information, i actually at first thought it was a setup question because surely with advanced degrees he would know this without asking.
that is why i answered as i did first saying i did NOT intend to be insulting and made a general comment about education that someone with advanced degrees should NOT need to ask that question.
i actually assumed rich did know the answer, but it is clear now he didnt!
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Post by phinehas on May 12, 2007 15:11:44 GMT -5
billt - Your first two sentences were not needed for a simple straitforward post, that's why. If you would have just given the freakin answer, minus the commentary on your perception of Richs' education, nobody would have thought anything about it, but you can't ever do that.
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Post by billt on May 12, 2007 15:13:05 GMT -5
kevin i read the link and i did answer the question using laymans terms with the same accuracy as your link.
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Post by richbrout on May 12, 2007 15:16:29 GMT -5
Thanks Kevin!
BillT- If you can't perceive the difference between the way Kevin responded to my question and the condescending way you addressed it, I can't help you. The moral of the story is if you have a question just go to wikipedia or google and I'll do that in the future. Thanks for your attempt at helping me anyway.
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Post by richbrout on May 12, 2007 15:22:55 GMT -5
I was more interested in central air, the dishwasher etc. I've also been hearing about "vampire usage" when products are plugged into an outlet, still draining electricity even though the appliance is not on.
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Post by kevin on May 12, 2007 15:24:16 GMT -5
i did not question or comment on rich's skills, he expressed a need for the basic information, i actually at first thought it was a setup question because surely with advanced degrees he would know this without asking. I get this -- I think. Take this statement, combine it with your thoughts on other matters, and shake them in a bag. Billt, no matter what you think, there is not a conspiracy in everything. Sometimes people don't really know! But by using your name, maybe you thought it was a setup. I saw it as a guy thinking you were intelligent about power conservation and electricity based on some of your posts in the various global warming threads.
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Post by bamagatr on May 15, 2007 6:13:26 GMT -5
If you have a 60 watt light bulb, is 60 the amount of watts used in an hour or is there a way to determine how much electricity and item uses in an hour? I think in regards to conservation, it would be a good idea if there was a small eletrical meter inside residences. That way, if I wanted to leave my AC off one day and run it the next day, I could get a general idea of how much electricity I am using and how much I am spending or saving with those decisions. Any ideas on this? ;D A unit of 1 watt (one what?) is defined as 1 ampere (current) times 1 volt (voltage)...it is a unit of power...that is, work (energy) "expended" over time... If that bulb "burns" for 1 hour, it uses 60 watt-hours of "electricity, which is .06 kilowatt-hours...the unit on which our bill is based...at a cost of about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour, it costs a little more than half a cent to "burn" a 60-watt bulb for 1 hour... A 3-ton air conditioner operates at approximately 10,000 watts, so operating for 1 hour would use 10 kilowatt-hours, and costs approximately $1.00 to run for an hour. So then if it runs 10 hours (which for me would be a very hot day), then it cost me $10.00 to run my air conditioner that day... If you have never learned how to read your power meter, this would be very useful...you can actually keep a daily log of your electricity consumption (in units of kilowatt-hours), and use the approximation of 10 cents per kilowatt-hour to figure your daily cost... I also use digital thermostats that tell me how long the unit runs each day, and also keeps a running total. If I am ever "surprised" by my electric bill, then it's my fault...
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Post by richbrout on May 15, 2007 6:55:59 GMT -5
Thank you Bama!!!!!!
I am trying to get where you are in terms of managing and budgeting my electical consumption. The info helps and is appreciated. It was what I was tryig to get at, as far as determining usage without crawling to the back of every appliance. If only I could get my girlfriend to adopt my SPARTAN attitude. "It's HOT!!" is a common refrain. I've got to be careful for danger of being an energy Nazi. Thanks!
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