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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 8:32:20 GMT -5
www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=6430040These guys were called a violent anti-government group because they had grenades, rifles a couple of automatic weapons and a little bit of marijuana. The special agent said they were "violent" but did not list any incidents were they have been violent. He stated that they were being investigated for over a year. They stated that the militia did not have any plots or plans. So what made them so "violent"? This special agent is one of the agents involved in the Waco massacre where the followers of David Koresh where machine gunned as they where trying to leave a burning building that was set fire by the feds themselves. Watch the media have a orgy over this one.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:17:24 GMT -5
One of the guys arrested was a former Marine. It is amazing how a soldier is considered a hero for toting a machine gun and grenades in foreign lands but when he returns home he is no longer trustworthy to carry them. I guess as long as you are slaving for the massa you can hav'em (swing-low-sweet-chariot). That "Special Agent" called the militia guys paranoid. This same agent said that they did not have any plots of violence against anyone. If they did not plan on hurting anyone who is the paranoid one?
It seems the government is the paranoid one.
NEVER TRUST A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT TRUST YOUR GUNS.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:17:50 GMT -5
I thought it was a felony to manufacture and stockpile homemade grenades, rocket launchers, and improvised explosives all the while manufacturing marijuana.
Did you see the photos of these guys? They didn't look like civil libertarians to me.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:23:41 GMT -5
Agents encountered booby traps at one site. They found trip wires and two hand grenades rigged as booby traps at the Collinsville camper home of 46-year-old Raymond Dillard, who holds titles of both militia major and fugitive from justice on an unrelated federal case in Mobile.
It also says that one was a fugitive from justice.
Also, since when should it be legal for someone to set up grenades as booby traps? At the very least, you're asking for two nine year olds playing in the woods to get killed.
I don't understand why you can have such a passionate hate for some gay that has never done anything whatsoever to harm you, but you'll take up for six ne're-do-wells.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:25:33 GMT -5
I thought it was a felony to manufacture and stockpile homemade grenades, rocket launchers, and improvised explosives all the while manufacturing marijuana. Did you see the photos of these guys? They didn't look like civil libertarians to me. According to the 2nd Amendment it isn't illegal. A well regulated militia being neccasary for the security of a free state the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to keep and to BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. The question is, What is the definition of arms by the founding fathers? It can't be limited to black powder rifles because the 1st Amendment is not limited to the old style printing presses. Machine guns were made "illegal" to possess (without a "license") in 1934 under the NFA National Firearms Act. It is amazing how machine guns magically became "unconstitutional" after 100 years or so after their invention.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:28:20 GMT -5
According to the 2nd Amendment it isn't illegal. A well regulated militia being neccasary for the security of a free state the RIGHT of the PEOPLE Ok you win. I wish they'd give these guys their rocket launchers back.
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Post by Dale Jackson on Apr 27, 2007 9:29:44 GMT -5
I will quote the part of Brandon's comment that will get responded to- I don't understand why you can have such a passionate hate for some gay just to say this
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:34:16 GMT -5
I will quote the part of Brandon's comment that will get responded to- hehe.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:36:09 GMT -5
Agents encountered booby traps at one site. They found trip wires and two hand grenades rigged as booby traps at the Collinsville camper home of 46-year-old Raymond Dillard, who holds titles of both militia major and fugitive from justice on an unrelated federal case in Mobile.It also says that one was a fugitive from justice. Also, since when should it be legal for someone to set up grenades as booby traps? At the very least, you're asking for two nine year olds playing in the woods to get killed. I don't understand why you can have such a passionate hate for some gay that has never done anything whatsoever to harm you, but you'll take up for six ne're-do-wells. They could have been harassed by some local sodomites and felt the need to protest the "back door". You know how the sodomites love to hang out in wooded areas. Don't you remember the feds setting up sting operations in the wildlife refuge a Lotte while back. There are definitely some people to protect yourself against in the woods. I'll be setting up my booby traps today. Boobys keep some types of people away. I like booby traps.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:39:53 GMT -5
Don't you remember the feds setting up sting operations in the wildlife refuge a Lotte while back. There are definitely some people to protect yourself against in the woods. Oh see now... If the feds are arresting people for manufacturing explosives, you're anti-fed. If the feds are arresting sodomites then you're pro-fed.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:40:23 GMT -5
I thought it was a felony to manufacture and stockpile homemade grenades, rocket launchers, and improvised explosives all the while manufacturing marijuana. Did you see the photos of these guys? They didn't look like civil libertarians to me. The guys were butt ugly though. It did not help matters any better that they did an early morning raid (I look worse after I wake up in the mornings).
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Post by espy on Apr 27, 2007 9:41:56 GMT -5
The only thing they are worried about is an armed militia who could put up a fight against an out of control government. The government is doing everything they can to disarm us in an effort to assume absolute control over the people, just as in China. If the citizens cannot fight back against an oppressive government then there is nothing stopping them from doing as they please with our states, communities and our people.
The good thing for those of us who do believe in the right to defend ourselves is that this group they arrested is only a very small part of a HUGE non-publicised movement to stock up on arms here in the south. You people who think the government is here to protect us are in for a rude awakening if they ever pass martial law. Then you will be screaming for someone to stand up to the oppression.
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Post by espy on Apr 27, 2007 9:44:38 GMT -5
brandon, please stop trying to start some stupid argument about gays.........
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Post by Dale Jackson on Apr 27, 2007 9:44:39 GMT -5
Booby traps?
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:45:47 GMT -5
I'll be setting up my booby traps today. Boobys keep some types of people away. I like booby traps. There's 20 of them still out there. I'm sure they'd love to take on new members if you're interested.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:51:22 GMT -5
I'll be setting up my booby traps today. Boobys keep some types of people away. I like booby traps. There's 20 of them still out there. I'm sure they'd love to take on new members if you're interested. I turned in my application moments ago. They have a don't ask don't tell policy IS ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE INTERESTED IN JOINING ALSO? Chill out on the queer crap you are going to get me banned again. Remember I might have the militia on my side soon.........
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:52:47 GMT -5
brandon, please stop trying to start some stupid argument about gays......... Just trying to make the point that "conservatives" tend to support liberty as long as it's regarding an activity that they believe is okay.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:57:44 GMT -5
brandon, please stop trying to start some stupid argument about gays......... Just trying to make the point that "conservatives" tend to support liberty as long as it's something that they believe is okay. I'm against gays to the point where they like to have sex and show people their talley whackers in public fishing holes. I don't believe in rounding them up and executing them if that is what you think. The New Testament in no way commands me to pursue that type of thing. I am against any thing they do to get the govt to sanction their wicked deeds though. Genesis 13:13
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 9:57:45 GMT -5
Remember I might have the militia on my side soon......... Mine is bigger. Ask the six guys from yesterday.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:58:21 GMT -5
The only thing they are worried about is an armed militia who could put up a fight against an out of control government. The government is doing everything they can to disarm us in an effort to assume absolute control over the people, just as in China. If the citizens cannot fight back against an oppressive government then there is nothing stopping them from doing as they please with our states, communities and our people. The good thing for those of us who do believe in the right to defend ourselves is that this group they arrested is only a very small part of a HUGE non-publicised movement to stock up on arms here in the south. You people who think the government is here to protect us are in for a rude awakening if they ever pass martial law. Then you will be screaming for someone to stand up to the oppression. Good Post.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 9:59:53 GMT -5
Remember I might have the militia on my side soon......... Mine is bigger. Ask the six guys from yesterday. ?
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Post by espy on Apr 27, 2007 10:00:53 GMT -5
I am a Christian, somewhat conservative, who believes that everyone should be free to do as they please, you just have to be grown up enough to know there are consequences for your actions both on earth and on judgement day. And if you dont believe in Christ or judgement day then more power to you, the lord doesnt want anything to do with those who say they dont need him. Being lost is your choice........
Life is about choices and freedom, the freedom to do right or wrong, good choices or bad choices, we all end up the same in the end........dead........its what happens to our soul that should be the highest priority.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 10:01:20 GMT -5
The New Testament in no way commands me to pursue that type of thing. When you're on patrol do you enforce the laws of the Bible or those of the Alabama Code?
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 10:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by phinehas on Apr 27, 2007 10:07:55 GMT -5
What does this have to do with gays? Solomon, by your words, I would be concerned that you are enforcing law on a equal basis.
I would agree with Brandon on this. Rocket launchers and IEDs? These guys were up to no good. I tend to think that people that are gathering arms for non-criminal reasons, would not get caught. I think you know what I mean by that Brandon.
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Post by solomon on Apr 27, 2007 10:12:15 GMT -5
The New Testament in no way commands me to pursue that type of thing. When you're on patrol do you enforce the laws of the Bible or those of the Alabama Code? Do you have anymore comments that are on the original topic of this thread? I enforce Alabama Law. ........ I do use officer's discretion though. If someone drives without a license I do not HAVE TO WRITE A TICKET. The same goes for people that carry a weapon with out a license. Try not to ruin my thread with gay debate please. Firearms are an important thing to our freedom and we can chat about gay privileges on another thread.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 10:16:47 GMT -5
Firearms are an important thing to our freedom and we can chat about gay privileges on another thread. I was just showing how invalid your arguments have become, in that, you are pro-freedom as long as it's a topic that you believe in. If someone does something that you don't like, then to hell with their freedoms. If you want to win any liberty points with me, then be pro-liberty ALL of the time.
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Post by phinehas on Apr 27, 2007 10:20:33 GMT -5
"If someone drives without a license I do not HAVE TO WRITE A TICKET."
....unless of course, they look gay.
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Post by brandon on Apr 27, 2007 10:23:22 GMT -5
"If someone drives without a license I do not HAVE TO WRITE A TICKET." ....unless of course, they look gay. lol good point "To Protect and Serve" (unless you're a homo)
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