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Post by blondie on Apr 4, 2007 13:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by bamagatr on Apr 4, 2007 13:36:44 GMT -5
fark 'em...
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Post by rich on Apr 4, 2007 13:45:38 GMT -5
We were on there a few weeks ago as well, when the bill was first announced. Pretty much the same comments.
Not only are we the laughingstock of the nation, but we'll fight tooth and nail to stay that way.
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Post by brandon on Apr 4, 2007 13:50:14 GMT -5
I liked this one:
"It's a sad day to be an underage drinker in Alabama..."
I'm gonna start brewing my own. To hell with them.
There's a home beer/wine store up north of town that is great. I really like looking around that place. My g/f and I made a couple of batches of wine and are letting it age at the moment. I haven't done any beer yet, though. I've had some awefully good homebrew in the past.
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Post by blondie on Apr 4, 2007 14:15:45 GMT -5
I never even thought about gourmet imported beer before. But now I'm really starting to crave it.
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Post by bamagatr on Apr 4, 2007 14:20:57 GMT -5
I have no idea what the alcohol content is, but I love Theakston's Old Peculier...and it's available in Alabama (if ya search for it)...so it must not be real high...
(I know, it figures I would like something called "Peculier")...
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Post by bamagatr on Apr 4, 2007 14:23:55 GMT -5
I haven't done any beer yet, though. I've had some awefully good homebrew in the past. When I lived in Huntsville in the early 70's, a lot of guys were still home-brewing as a carry-over of the "dry" days in Madison county... They all called it "beer", but I think it was really malt liquor...some pretty good stuff...
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Post by brandon on Apr 4, 2007 14:26:29 GMT -5
Not only are we the laughingstock of the nation, but we'll fight tooth and nail to stay that way. Yes, and today we add to it the story of the woman getting a DUI on horseback.
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Post by rich on Apr 4, 2007 14:29:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna start brewing my own. To hell with them. Well, hate to mention it, but homebrewing is technically illegal, too, according to state code. Not enforced often, but there ya go. You know, Blondie, it's not just imports. Some of the finest beers in the world are made in America. We just can't get many of them here. Unless you're a veteran ... they don't have such restrictions and can buy brews on post that exceed 6%. The rationale I've heard is that our servicemen and servicewomen travel overseas and get to love beers from all over the world, so the government makes them available on base. Not to begrudge our military anything at all, but I would venture to say that as Americans we ought to be given the right to purchase any beer we choose in our home state ... import, domestic microbrew or whatever. I love this whole moral argument, too ... alcohol is evil, etc. Ironic that some of the very finest beers in the world - beers prohibited in Alabama - are made by Catholic monks in Belgium and the Netherlands.
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Post by fragerella on Apr 4, 2007 15:21:51 GMT -5
Catholics aren't Christians!!!11111111111 OK, sorry. I'll stop.
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Post by Chris Hobbs on Apr 4, 2007 18:43:15 GMT -5
/Surrenders
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Post by LTBF on Apr 4, 2007 22:49:06 GMT -5
Not only are we the laughingstock of the nation, but we'll fight tooth and nail to stay that way. Do you honestly think anyone outside the state really cares about our beer laws?
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Post by espy on Apr 4, 2007 22:53:06 GMT -5
Not only are we the laughingstock of the nation, but we'll fight tooth and nail to stay that way. Do you honestly think anyone outside the state really cares about our beer laws? Most the country thinks we all drink moon-shine..that we got from Bubba the town drunk.
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Post by outcast on Apr 4, 2007 23:31:34 GMT -5
You Know I was thinking I bet it was great here in the U.S.A back in the day when the people was free and owned the Government!,
To bad them days are long gone, now we are juts sheep in the system, waiting for the masters orders, Little harsh? maybe but its true. only it will take a few more laws, and a few more of what we seen in Montgomery for this to sink in to the masses! P3@C3
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Post by espy on Apr 5, 2007 0:06:39 GMT -5
You Know I was thinking I bet it was great here in the U.S.A back in the day when the people was free and owned the Government!, To bad them days are long gone, now we are juts sheep in the system, waiting for the masters orders, Little harsh? maybe but its true. only it will take a few more laws, and a few more of what we seen in Montgomery for this to sink in to the masses! P3@C3 that day is coming....
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Post by rich on Apr 5, 2007 8:52:39 GMT -5
Do you honestly think anyone outside the state really cares about our beer laws? For the most part, no. That's not my point. Honestly, why should anyone care except Alabamians? Besides, citizens in every other state except for three others can purchase whatever beer they please. It is interesting to note, though, that Free The Hops regularly receives donations, letters of support and such from beer lovers across the nation. It's not just the beer, but that is an issue - like the sex toy ban - that gets people's attention nationwide. I mean, obviously someone cares because the beer law issue has been posted twice on Fark ... and people from all over the country have weighed in about what a backwards state we are. As they often do whenever our legislature (or any public figure in Alabama for that matter) reinforces the negative stereotype of backwards thinking bumpkins who are attempting to legislate morality and regulate what consenting adults can and cannot do. I am personally of the opinion that government - state or otherwise - has no business in my bedroom or refrigerator. Of course people across the nation aren't lighting torches and sharpening pitchforks to storm the castle of the Alabama legislature over an issue that doesn't affect them in the least. My point was simply that this is yet another area in which our image is taking a beating in the national mindset. This is compounded by the fact that, on the one hand, we are purporting to be this forward-thinking, progressive industrial haven - the Heart of the New Automotive South ... we actively court international giants like Honda, Mercedes, Toyota, Hyundai, Topre, Yutaka and others. (Most people may not see that, but I work in local government/economic development.) And yet we subject those that come here to our Puritanical, quasi-Victorian, anything-but-progressive laws that are far more restrictive than anything they are used to in Europe or Asia. Isn't it kind of embarassing? I don't even expect all Alabamians to care about our beer laws. Most probably don't. Most undoubtedly think "it's just beer" or "why can't you just drink what we have" and think we're making a big thing out of nothing. But, we're passionate about good beer. What if it were something you were passionate about? What if there were a law prohibiting the sale of sports cars? I mean, they're usually faster and could be considered more dangerous if used irresponsibly ... what if Alabama law restricted you to a four-door sedan? A station wagon will get you where you want to go, what's the big deal about owning a sleek, shiny sports car? Nothing ... unless you love sports cars. How about steak? What if Alabamians had a law preventing the sale of red meat because chicken and fish are safer and better for you? No big deal ... unless you like your New York Strips medium rare and think that, as a responsible adult, you should be allowed the choice to eat a steak if you want one and not have to drive to Tennessee or Georgia or any of the other 46 states that see nothing wrong with selling beef and have had no ill effects whatsoever from the sale and consumption of it. I know ... I take analogies to silly extremes, perhaps. But doesn't it bother people ... whether they like gourmet beer or not, whether they like beer or not ... to be bound by a prohibition-era law that tells them what beer they can or can't buy here when it's legal almost everywhere else? Shouldn't that be our choice? It's especially maddening that this is SUCH an issue - that people even bother to get their moral dander up about it - considering each and every one of these beers in question pales in comparison to the alcoholic content found in readily available and wholly legal vodkas, whiskeys, gins, rums, wines and other liquors. Even the strongest beer in the world (Sam Adams Utopias, 25% abv, extremely rare, $250 per bottle) sports far less alcohol than 86-90 proof Jack Daniels.
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Post by W.O.M.I on Apr 5, 2007 19:47:06 GMT -5
I'm not a real big beer drinker (depending on your definition of "big"), but I remember a place in Atlanta that had something like 50 different beers on tap and about- no joke- 400 MORE- in bottles/kegs/steins/casks/etc.
They had a "Round The World" Club where you got a "passport" that you got stamped when you finished drinking all the beers from a particular country, and an "Explorer's Club" when you finished drinking ALL the different beers.
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Post by rich on Apr 6, 2007 9:07:43 GMT -5
I'm not a real big beer drinker (depending on your definition of "big"), but I remember a place in Atlanta that had something like 50 different beers on tap and about- no joke- 400 MORE- in bottles/kegs/steins/casks/etc. They had a "Round The World" Club where you got a "passport" that you got stamped when you finished drinking all the beers from a particular country, and an "Explorer's Club" when you finished drinking ALL the different beers. I hear the Flying Saucer in Memphis and Nashville are like that. Taco Mac in Atlanta, maybe? Don't make it to Atlanta often. We actually used to have a Taco Mac in Birmingham that had something like 25-30 beers on tap and hundreds available in the bottle. It was awesome. They were able to get tons of cool microbrews that we don't normally get. Of course, they had to be below 6% ... and perhaps because of some sort of business marketing deal as a chain/franchise they were able to get stuff that's not normally available through local distributors ... leading me to another point on this issue. Again, it's not really about the alcohol content. There are some great beers from around the world that are 6% and below. There are some really lousy beers over 6%. However, if a brewery crafts 10-12 beers of varying degrees of alcohol by volume and can only legally sell two or three in Alabama, why would they go to the expense of trying to distribute here? So not only does the abv cap (and the container size limit of 16 oz. and below - many wonderful beers are sold in larger bottles, corked like wine and meant to be shared) keep beers over 6% out, but it also serves to keep out tons of great beers that are comparable to what we already have, leaving us with a pretty pitiful selection compared to other areas of the country.
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