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Post by billt on Mar 2, 2007 17:36:30 GMT -5
i self imposed a rest period for a reason.
that was to show PROOF positive, that Bill Taylor is NOT in any way the "source" of rancor, name calling, disharmony, and other negatives on this forum.
i thank those of you that made my point by doing those things, while i sat and read only.
i freely admit to have responded in kind when provoked, but also state clearly that I do NOT enjoy being put in that position.
this is NOT directed at anyone in particular but clearly some here it applies to in spades......ANY ADULT man that looks at a teenager "dancing" and has lustfull thoughts, is turned "on" in any way, or "enjoys" it on a sexual level is simply put a sick PERVERT!
i am back, let us discuss issues reather than persons, and be forewarned, i WILL expose anyone that cant be civil in a very intellectual way, for what you are!
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Post by alabamamtnman on Mar 2, 2007 18:18:43 GMT -5
I agree with you. I refused to look at it as soon as I saw it was a minor. Anyone that says some of the things Ive seen on here about such a child deserves to have their amazingly small penis cut off and shoved down their throats until the suffocate on it. Having sexual thoughts about children is as disgucting as anything I can think of.
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Post by meatman on Mar 2, 2007 19:38:33 GMT -5
I must have missed the thread you're referring to, but as the father of a 14 y/o girl, nothing scares me worse than an adult with a child fetish. Of course I have the 9mm cure for what ails 'em.
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Post by phinehas on Mar 2, 2007 19:47:39 GMT -5
See Where did girls learn to dance like this?? in the free for all forum.
It has to be pointed out that she appears to be a minor..but she is far from being a "child"..she looks to be at least 16 or 17. "Children" don't "dance" like that....so anybody that watches the video would have to be a moron to see innocence.
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Post by richbrout on Mar 2, 2007 22:26:50 GMT -5
Kalee is 20 years old BILLT.
She is one of the most popular people on YouTube.....so She is NOT a minor, and she is NOT a teenager!
But.......I'm used to you running your mouth when you don't know what you are talking about.
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Post by Twista on Mar 2, 2007 22:28:57 GMT -5
16 or 17? Heck, in alabama she could have been married twice and have 3 or 4 kids by that age...
Re: Billt (BTW - welcome back.)
"this is NOT directed at anyone in particular but clearly some here it applies to in spades......ANY ADULT man that looks at a teenager "dancing" and has lustfull thoughts, is turned "on" in any way, or "enjoys" it on a sexual level is simply put a sick PERVERT!"
I'll have to dig up granddad and tell him that... He was 42 and the wife was almost 18 when they "ran off" on horseback after the barn dance... (in the late 1920's)
I think he pounded the heck out of that "sexual level" for nearly 60 years... Heh, heh...
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Post by richbrout on Mar 2, 2007 22:38:44 GMT -5
Now you can watch the video and lust after her and feel ok about it.
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Post by Twista on Mar 2, 2007 22:53:18 GMT -5
Wow... did I just hear the faint clicking of hundreds of mice, all canceling those downloads?
LOL...
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 14:03:50 GMT -5
rich, i did NOT address you in my post, UNLESS it applies.
rich, i did NOT view the video so had no idea how old the girl was but did read YOUR post as follows.
"Yes unless you like watching a hot girl dance unreal..you probably wouldn't want to see it.
When I was in high school the girls did the little Go Go's dance where they shift their weight from foot to foot and snap............if they had danced like this............my how my life would have been different! I think I understand RAP now...if it makes girls move like this..I get it!!!!"
YOU clearly were posting about TEENAGE girls in high school, so since the video wasnt about that group why did YOU choose to bring them into the equation?
also rich i did NOT in any way get personal with you but YOU clearly show you cant post without going into the INSULT mode!
care to debate global warming rich?
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Post by phinehas on Mar 3, 2007 14:06:28 GMT -5
Vacation is over....and so it begins.
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 14:32:33 GMT -5
just curious, did that post address any POINT/ISSUE, or was it about the people making posts on a personal level?
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Post by richbrout on Mar 3, 2007 14:39:00 GMT -5
I was talking about how girls used to dance and how they dance now....... For my past reference I used when I was in High School, obviously, the girls I would be watching were in high school as well.
BILLT- You have made up your mind on global warming and so have I. Wasting our weekends trying to change minds that are made up seems pretty boring. Besides, we've done it here and on the radio...haven't you had enough?
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 14:50:52 GMT -5
not really rich because you have yet to debate the issue on any level.
you have simply said the scientists have made the decision for you and the TRUTH is the science has NOT been settled on any level.
I have the ability to debate the actual science involved and that is what i desire to do.
such as how is it possible that co2 can block IR radiation from the earth headed back towards space yet doesnt block IR as it come in from the sun?
how come AFTER the co2 level rose in the 20th century the temperatures went into a COOLING period?
FACT heat moves away from its source towards colder bodies...since we are surrounded by the ultimate cold body(outer space) what process have humans done to change the above FACT and cause the natural factual movement of heat towards cold to stop working?
how has the FACT that recently we closed about 66% of the earth based weather staions that were mostly in rural/colder areas(siberia in particular) been accounted for in the global temperature stats?
how come the last few years have been slightly cooler, when the claim is that co2 has overridden all other factors and taken control over the climate?
IF that were true then each year would be hotter than the year before!
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Post by richbrout on Mar 3, 2007 15:13:47 GMT -5
Here is what I recommend BILLT:
Since you can factual prove that humans are not affecting the climate change, Take your research to TIME or NEWSWEEK and end this whole silly debate once and for all. Het your face on the cover of Time to boot.
Yes, I'll really on the scientist that actually did the research to form my opinion. As opposed to believing the reports were completely changed by the editors.
Whats amazing is that they can get all these scientists, who unlike you BILLT are trained to do this study, all the major news magazines,the networks, Hell even the President agrees. That is some kind of conspiracy.
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 15:31:37 GMT -5
rich, the scientists that did the research did NOT write the paper the IPCC released...the government paid hacks wrote the report aqnd it does NOT in any way match what the scientists stated in their research.
rich i also note that YOU did NOT answer even one question I posed and again took a personal shot at my credentials.
still waiting for you to debate the POINTS i have made.
the major media of the day supported the flat earth concept rich.
the major media supported the concept of the coming ice age only 30 years ago , rich.
the major media tried every way they could to scare us about bird flu, oops i forgot the thousands of people killed this year by bird flu, nevermind, it has yet to kill even ONE person in the USA!
the major media is in the business of selling papers/magazines, getting viewers, and listeners, scaring people about the latest threat SELLS PAPERS...the TRUTH that mother nature NOT humans are in control does NOT sell any papers!
the researchers being paid grant money to find human causation indeed understand that the ONLY way they continue to be paid is to "find" that humans are the cause, the TRUTH simply ENDS their research grant money.
the POINT is the IPCC already assumed humans are in control and have perverted the science to meet that prior assumption, the science does NOT in any way meet their wild claims...."95% likely that humans are the cause" is NOT science, science doesnt work by concensus.....999,999 "scientists" can support a hypothesis but that ONE scientist the shows through experiment that the hypothesis doesnt work shows PROOF that the 999,999 were wrong!
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 15:34:56 GMT -5
all it takes is ONE person dropping an apple from a roof, and having that apple hover in the air would show that the theory of gravity is wrong!
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Post by richbrout on Mar 3, 2007 15:36:11 GMT -5
BILLT how can I debate the science with you?
I'm not a scientist. I have never done one study on global warming. IMHO, I doubt either side will ever be able to PROVE their side. But, I do believe in doing what we can, especially when we benefit in so many ways. What part of the measures are you against? You don't want us to be energy independent? You don't want cleaner air? You don't want CHEAPER energy?
We are arguing about something we can't prove.
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 15:46:59 GMT -5
rich, one does NOT have to be a scientist to understand its basics.....they taught this stuff in the 8th grade.
co2 does NOT dirty the air rich, it is a REQUIRED component of the atmosphere for life to exist here!
stopping the use of the internal combustion engine does NOT make us independent.
as to cheaper energy, my opinion is energy is FREE and all around us in the magnetic field, winds, solar, geothermal, etc.
this is an area we can agree, the "power" companies are doing everything they can to maintain the status quo because they are making TRILLIONS of dollars selling "energy".
i bought and used the new compact lighting when it was first introduced many YEARS ago, because they save money in the long run and provde the same level of light for my use.
as to what cant or cant be proven, i CAN prove that the earth has gone through warming and cooling cycles for millions of years, without humans having anything to do with that process....YOUR side needs to prove that that FACT no longer works and HUMANS have taken over and are now in control!
rich, i do commend you for admitting that even with your degrees you lack the knowledge and ability to debate me on the science, which i have shown that i do indeed understand!
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Post by richbrout on Mar 3, 2007 16:20:47 GMT -5
So these scientists lack 8th grade science knowledge?
BILLT-give me a break. If this issue was resolved with 8th grade science that is irrefutable, there would be no controversy. Its controversial because the environment is so dynamic neither side can prove what is causing it.
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Post by phinehas on Mar 3, 2007 16:24:50 GMT -5
rich, the scientists that did the research did NOT write the paper the IPCC released...the government paid hacks wrote the report aqnd it does NOT in any way match what the scientists stated in their research. rich i also note that YOU did NOT answer even one question I posed and again took a personal shot at my credentials. still waiting for you to debate the POINTS i have made. the major media of the day supported the flat earth concept rich. the major media supported the concept of the coming ice age only 30 years ago , rich. the major media tried every way they could to scare us about bird flu, oops i forgot the thousands of people killed this year by bird flu, nevermind, it has yet to kill even ONE person in the USA! the major media is in the business of selling papers/magazines, getting viewers, and listeners, scaring people about the latest threat SELLS PAPERS...the TRUTH that mother nature NOT humans are in control does NOT sell any papers! the researchers being paid grant money to find human causation indeed understand that the ONLY way they continue to be paid is to "find" that humans are the cause, the TRUTH simply ENDS their research grant money. the POINT is the IPCC already assumed humans are in control and have perverted the science to meet that prior assumption, the science does NOT in any way meet their wild claims...."95% likely that humans are the cause" is NOT science, science doesnt work by concensus.....999,999 "scientists" can support a hypothesis but that ONE scientist the shows through experiment that the hypothesis doesnt work shows PROOF that the 999,999 were wrong! All excellent points. I for one am waiting for what the next scare is going to be. Could be a good thread to start...maybe a poll.
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Post by phinehas on Mar 3, 2007 16:27:46 GMT -5
all it takes is ONE person dropping an apple from a roof, and having that apple hover in the air would show that the theory of gravity is wrong! or that the function of gravity can be cancelled out by another action....
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Post by billt on Mar 3, 2007 16:33:00 GMT -5
other forces at work do NOT disprove gravity, my example WOULD, becvause i on purpose did NOT allow for other forces to be at play.
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Post by phinehas on Mar 3, 2007 17:08:11 GMT -5
"my example WOULD, becvause i on purpose did NOT allow for other forces to be at play."
Maybe you should have actually wrote the "no other forces at play" caveat in the post in question if that was what you wanted to convey.
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