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Post by phinehas on Feb 13, 2007 17:59:43 GMT -5
Deja vu again. They start making noise about building nukes...we talk tough...they ignore us...then there is a period of quiet and they all of a sudden say they will dismantle their program. Why, because we give in to their demands.
This will keep happening again and again.
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Post by killer on Feb 14, 2007 9:39:36 GMT -5
Do other countries meddle in the business of the U.S. like the U.S. does in theirs?
What I'm asking is do inspectors from other countries (or maybe U.N.) come to inspect our weapons facilities?
We seem to want a say in what other countries can and cannot do. Do they have a voice in what we do?
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Post by killer on Feb 16, 2007 21:46:11 GMT -5
Anybody know the answer here? Or is my question intentionally avoided?
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Post by W.O.M.I on Feb 16, 2007 23:11:02 GMT -5
killer-
To my knowledge, the United States is subject to reciprocal inspection of our weapons sites if and when a treaty is signed with another country or countries.
The SALT and SALT II treaties with the former USSR were examples of this.
Furhter, when we agreed to get rid of our chemical weapons stockpiles, part of that agreement was to allow inspectors from neutral or unaligned countries to verify that the agreement was being honored.
In addition, I'd not be surprised at all if we're also subject to International Atomic Energy Agency inspections from the United Nations to verify that we are complying with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
If you're going to request or demand that other countries submit to inspections, I agree completely that you need to allow them yourselves to set the good example. In this area, as all others, we set the bar very high.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 1:39:52 GMT -5
Do other countries meddle in the business of the U.S. like the U.S. does in theirs? What I'm asking is do inspectors from other countries (or maybe U.N.) come to inspect our weapons facilities? We seem to want a say in what other countries can and cannot do. Do they have a voice in what we do? If the MM forum was up I would just copy and paste the answer I gave last time. What is it with you and terms like "meddle" in relation to our country? That is something out of a bad revolutionary movie. The brainwashed white woman taking it to the man for the Panther Party. I always wondered what happened to Patty H.
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Post by lawmanguest on Feb 17, 2007 1:47:53 GMT -5
Do other countries meddle in the business of the U.S. like the U.S. does in theirs? What I'm asking is do inspectors from other countries (or maybe U.N.) come to inspect our weapons facilities? We seem to want a say in what other countries can and cannot do. Do they have a voice in what we do? If the MM forum was up I would just copy and paste the answer I gave last time. What is it with you and terms like "meddle" in relation to our country? That is something out of a bad revolutionary movie. The brainwashed white woman taking it to the man for the Panther Party. I always wondered what happened to Patty H. Sincerely trying to be civil, I ask you, why don't you simply answer her very simply, reasonable question concerning the U.S. 'meddling' in other country's business? Unless you are 'Dodging and ducking' the question like Bill Clinton?
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 17, 2007 9:35:54 GMT -5
If the MM forum was up I would just copy and paste the answer I gave last time. What is it with you and terms like "meddle" in relation to our country? That is something out of a bad revolutionary movie. The brainwashed white woman taking it to the man for the Panther Party. I always wondered what happened to Patty H. Sincerely trying to be civil, I ask you, why don't you simply answer her very simply, reasonable question concerning the U.S. 'meddling' in other country's business? Unless you are 'Dodging and ducking' the question like Bill Clinton? What a friggin nimrod.....The Question has been asked by her and answered by him on more than one occasion. Stop trying to play dumb. You forget we ALL know who you are, so we ALL know what a shit stirring trouble maker you are...Well, OK, I will excuse Chris & Dale because they weren't there to witness your implosion on the MM forum. Get a real life and get off the internet. There is a beautiful world to explore outside your house.
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Post by lawman on Feb 17, 2007 14:58:39 GMT -5
Sincerely trying to be civil, I ask you, why don't you simply answer her very simply, reasonable question concerning the U.S. 'meddling' in other country's business? Unless you are 'Dodging and ducking' the question like Bill Clinton? What a friggin nimrod.....The Question has been asked by her and answered by him on more than one occasion. Stop trying to play dumb. You forget we ALL know who you are, so we ALL know what a shit stirring trouble maker you are...Well, OK, I will excuse Chris & Dale because they weren't there to witness your implosion on the MM forum. Get a real life and get off the internet. There is a beautiful world to explore outside your house. I know of 3 former mods that KNOW what a liar you are.....who absolutely detest and deplore you and your lies, trouble making etc......and for you to falsely accuse ANYONE as you do.....is the epitome of hypocrisy and indecency!
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Post by W.O.M.I on Feb 17, 2007 17:41:28 GMT -5
phin-
If you get the chance, read Cal Thomas' piece regarding this exact subject. I know you can link to it via Drudge.
He says what I'd say much better than I could...but then he's paid to do so whereas I am a PITA only because I want to be.
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Post by killer on Feb 17, 2007 20:42:32 GMT -5
phinehas,
How's the professional blogging business? Does it pay well?
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 20:47:28 GMT -5
Posting on forums is not blogging. I will probably start a blog in the future and will be sure to give you the url. I am financially secure, thanks for asking.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 20:48:47 GMT -5
phin- If you get the chance, read Cal Thomas' piece regarding this exact subject. I know you can link to it via Drudge. He says what I'd say much better than I could...but then he's paid to do so whereas I am a PITA only because I want to be. I coudn't find it on the D Report. When you get a chance, if possible, please provide a link because I am interested in reading the article.
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Post by lawman on Feb 17, 2007 21:20:16 GMT -5
Posting on forums is not blogging. I will probably start a blog in the future and will be sure to give you the url. I am financially secure, thanks for asking. Well great, moron! You're sure not emotionally or mentally secure!
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 21:30:55 GMT -5
Posting on forums is not blogging. I will probably start a blog in the future and will be sure to give you the url. I am financially secure, thanks for asking. Well great, moron! You're sure not emotionally or mentally secure! I have consistently defended Christianity and Christians on forums where you have consistently done the opposite.
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Post by lawman on Feb 17, 2007 21:34:29 GMT -5
Well great, moron! You're sure not emotionally or mentally secure! I have consistently defended Christianity and Christians on forums where you have consistently done the opposite. ' See you got your 'robot' responding for you now.....LOL...keep him on.......at least he's consistant!
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 21:43:45 GMT -5
I have consistently defended Christianity and Christians on forums where you have consistently done the opposite. ' See you got your 'robot' responding for you now.....LOL...keep him on.......at least he's consistant! I have consistently defended Christianity and Christians on forums where you have consistently done the opposite. (see bold for proper spelling.)
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Post by lawman on Feb 17, 2007 21:46:27 GMT -5
' See you got your 'robot' responding for you now.....LOL...keep him on.......at least he's consistant! I have consistently defended Christianity and Christians on forums where you have consistently done the opposite. (see bold for proper spelling.) Like I said, ''You're (not your, like you use, moron) an EDUCATED IDIOT!
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Post by killer on Feb 17, 2007 21:47:06 GMT -5
Raise hell all week.... Then comes Saturday night (time to think about morning Sunday School) and the "righteous" mask is pulled.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 21:58:19 GMT -5
I guess it's hard for you to understand post#13 when you choose to ignore post #12. Is it my fault post#12 occurs on a Saturday? No.
If you consider my defense of Christianity from an atheist as raising hell, then so be it.
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Post by W.O.M.I on Feb 17, 2007 22:46:41 GMT -5
phin- If you get the chance, read Cal Thomas' piece regarding this exact subject. I know you can link to it via Drudge. He says what I'd say much better than I could...but then he's paid to do so whereas I am a PITA only because I want to be. I coudn't find it on the D Report. When you get a chance, if possible, please provide a link because I am interested in reading the article. "Ask, and ye shall receive." jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas021507.php3
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 23:02:45 GMT -5
Thanks a lot. It was a good article and the dismantlement clause just might do the trick. I would think if this does occur again, then the ONLY way is to not give in and let the consequences occur, maybe then and only then will the people of NK do what it would take to remove the dictators that have kept their necks on the ground. I still don't know how possible it is to detect that they are not complying considering this stuff can be done underground. I don't doubt for a second that little Kim hasn't had a 5 mile underground bunker/lab built by using people with chop sticks if needed.
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Post by W.O.M.I on Feb 17, 2007 23:37:36 GMT -5
>nods<
It's precisely why I haven't trumpeted this potential- POTENTIAL- foreign policy coup by the Bush Administration.
If it's a genuine and workable agreement- IF- then it shows that Bush was right when all of his detractors said he was completely wrong. The MSM won't report it that way, of course, but truth is truth.
It also shows that Bush DOES prefer to rely on diplomacy first. The MSM won't report it that way, either.
As Cal Thomas says, what makes this agreement, at least to this point, different is that it has the weight of five very powerful nations behind it and demands far more than just Il's word that he'll abide by its tenets.
Plus, don't think for a moment that Il hasn't noticed that there's a New Sheriff in Washington and that his promises of serious consequences should Il fail to live up to his end of the bargain are just that: promises. If he doubts that, tell him to dig up Saddam and ask him....
I also think that Il's ego might work in our favor. Remember...all Saddam had to do to stay in power and enjoy the perks of tyranny was COMPLY with the agreements. Most reasonable people know that sanctions really don't hurt the rulers nearly as much as they hurt the ruled...but Il also knows that to preside over nothingness doesn't look good on a dictator's resume, so he must see that it is in his personal best interest to take a deal that leaves him in power. Again, he can learn from Saddam's errors.
But what I think really compelled him to take the deal is the threat of a re-militarized Japan. If Iran can build nukes in three to five years with sand, camel hair and palm leaves, how fast could a nation as technologically advanced as Japan do so, especially if we decided to help them along? China is collectively scared to death of a re-armed Japan and, as China has great leverage over NK, I'm sure they used their extensive powers of persuasion to call Il to heel.
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Post by phinehas on Feb 17, 2007 23:52:48 GMT -5
That's classic womi verbage at it's best...."sand, camel hair and palm leaves"...."If he doubts that, tell him to dig up Saddam and ask him...." LOL.
You are so right about this change of events not being a credit to Bush in any fashion. It's a rather subdued response by the MSM at best. You know that I don't agree with Bush on a lot of his policy decisions and feel that he had way more potential and opportunity then realized but I would have to place some of that on the MSM.
I hope, like the Vietnam Vet, he will one day get his due respect for some things he did do or attempt to do.
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 18, 2007 1:13:39 GMT -5
What a friggin nimrod.....The Question has been asked by her and answered by him on more than one occasion. Stop trying to play dumb. You forget we ALL know who you are, so we ALL know what a shit stirring trouble maker you are...Well, OK, I will excuse Chris & Dale because they weren't there to witness your implosion on the MM forum. Get a real life and get off the internet. There is a beautiful world to explore outside your house. I know of 3 former mods that KNOW what a liar you are.....who absolutely detest and deplore you and your lies, trouble making etc......and for you to falsely accuse ANYONE as you do.....is the epitome of hypocrisy and indecency! 3 former MODs? There were only 5 of us in total, so.....Why don't you just name names...Or maybe we should just ask... Brandon...Have you told the MPD freak that I am a liar? Jake...How about you? Who really cares what Andrea thought of me and told you, we all know her issue with me was of her own making. Frag....well we can't ask her, can we Wild one , no wait..manic barbie..no..Anaday...wait, you are calling your self lawman this week,right? You really should just go away before you make yourself look even more stupid.
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 18, 2007 1:15:39 GMT -5
Posting on forums is not blogging. I will probably start a blog in the future and will be sure to give you the url. I am financially secure, thanks for asking. Well great, moron! You're sure not emotionally or mentally secure! I guess someone with your mental problems would know what isn't stable. I'm glad they allow you internet access on your floor at the "hosptial" in Tuscaloosa, you entertain us all so well.
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Post by lawman on Feb 18, 2007 2:29:51 GMT -5
Well great, moron! You're sure not emotionally or mentally secure! I guess someone with your mental problems would know what isn't stable. I'm glad they allow you internet access on your floor at the "hosptial" in Tuscaloosa, you entertain us all so well. You call yourself a Christian....and we ALL have seen you are one of the most EVIL people ever born! And you are a LIAR! See if you can get your 'mod' job that you lived for back next week when MM returns! YOU REALLY ARE A IGNORANT, REDNECK DUMB-A**! And everybody on the forums laugh at you, idiot!
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 18, 2007 3:11:16 GMT -5
I guess someone with your mental problems would know what isn't stable. I'm glad they allow you internet access on your floor at the "hosptial" in Tuscaloosa, you entertain us all so well. See if you can get your 'mod' job that you lived for back next week when MM returns! YOU REALLY ARE A IGNORANT, REDNECK DUMB-A**! And everybody on the forums laugh at you, idiot! Lived for? When? Jeff asked me to do it, and I agreed. I felt obligated to not leave him in a lurch, even when I had to deal with obsessed psycopaths like you. How many times did Jeff have to ban you? Three? Four? And you never got the impression that it was YOU that no one wanted around? Amazing! If my MOD position was such a problem, why didn't Matt take it back? He took Brandon's back, so we know it wasn't because he couldn't. I don't know if I would take to position back if it were offered. I might do it if Matt asked, but on the other hand, I'd be right back to dealing with your freakish ass. You never have answered Dale's question..What's the deal? Did you delete you account before it became clear what a freak you are? Dale posting that IP address by mistake just proved what many of us suspected anyway, that you were the same freak. Maybe Chris and Dale will see the light and ban the IP address, since you are to scared to keep an account.
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Post by lawman on Feb 18, 2007 3:23:40 GMT -5
LIES! LIES! LIES......all you write is pure lies!
You know, there IS CONSOLATION for the true Christians that you have lied about, PROVOKED because you are jealous, insulted, got your 'mod' cronies to ''go on the MM forum and start a fight with that person''...so I can get Jeff to ban them....and that's what you did to more than one person---There are witnesses to all this!
The consolation is ....you will answer to the Just God, when you face HIM....after this life you wasted!
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Post by dixiepixie on Feb 18, 2007 3:34:08 GMT -5
LIES! LIES! LIES......all you write is pure lies! You know, there IS CONSOLATION for the true Christians that you have lied about, PROVOKED because you are jealous, insulted, got your 'mod' cronies to ''go on the MM forum and start a fight with that person''...so I can get Jeff to ban them....and that's what you did to more than one person---There are witnesses to all this! The consolation is ....you will answer to the Just God, when you face HIM....after this life you wasted! True Christian...You are too funny, you chicken shit little dildo. Lies? Where? PROVE I am lying. Just because YOU claim I am lying doesn't make it so. So since you want to try and impune my character, PROVE I am a liar. This is fun, you get more stupid by the second. I can almost visualize your pitiful face turning magenta with anger, and you spitting and sputtering your rage, because you know you can only lie and hope someone believes you.
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Post by lawman on Feb 18, 2007 4:51:21 GMT -5
LIES! LIES! LIES......all you write is pure lies! You know, there IS CONSOLATION for the true Christians that you have lied about, PROVOKED because you are jealous, insulted, got your 'mod' cronies to ''go on the MM forum and start a fight with that person''...so I can get Jeff to ban them....and that's what you did to more than one person---There are witnesses to all this! The consolation is ....you will answer to the Just God, when you face HIM....after this life you wasted! True Christian...You are too funny, you chicken shit little dildo. Lies? Where? PROVE I am lying. Just because YOU claim I am lying doesn't make it so. So since you want to try and impune my character, PROVE I am a liar. This is fun, you get more stupid by the second. I can almost visualize your pitiful face turning magenta with anger, and you spitting and sputtering your rage, because you know you can only lie and hope someone believes you. I'm tempted to say more.....but I'm just going to let your ignorant character SPEAK for itself!
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